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09-13-2011, 04:36 PM
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Bogosian's next contract

As we all know, Bogosian is a RFA still unsigned by Winnipeg. How much do you think he would be worth per season?

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As we all know, Bogosian is a RFA still unsigned by Winnipeg. How much do you think he would be worth per season?
more then Enstrom less then Byfuglien so im guessing he is worth 3.75M\yr-4.25M\yr

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more then Enstrom less then Byfuglien so im guessing he is worth 3.75M\yr-4.25M\yr
What?!?

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more then Enstrom less then Byfuglien so im guessing he is worth 3.75M\yr-4.25M\yr
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What?!?
Im assuming he meant on JVR type 6 year deal...paying for potential.

a 2 year 4.6million makes sense otherwise.

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Perhaps a deal similar to that of Carey Price:

$2.5M the first year
$3M the second year

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Im assuming he meant on JVR type 6 year deal...paying for potential.

a 2 year 4.6million makes sense otherwise.
Anything over $4 does NOT makes sense.

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Anything over $4 does NOT makes sense.
the guy said 2 yrs 4.6M .. so 2.3M per
I am sure Bogosian is looking for much more then 2.3M and closer to 4

2.3M is Cogliano money

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With guys like Wisniewski now making 5+ million, I think 3.75-4.00 million/year is fair.

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Winnipeg Fans are all a sudden going to overvalue Bogosian and say hes worth 5 per season. When he has yet to prove anything going into his fourth season and should get 2.5-3.5 per season up to 2 or 3 years.

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Winnipeg Fans are all a sudden going to overvalue Bogosian and say hes worth 5 per season. When he has yet to prove anything going into his fourth season and should get 2.5-3.5 per season up to 2 or 3 years.
Nobody is saying that. So why are you making things up?

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With guys like Wisniewski now making 5+ million, I think 3.75-4.00 million/year is fair.
Yes, but....that was a UFA contract.

Bogosian is an RFA.

He should be inline for a deal similar to what Erik Johnson signed....off the top of my head that was a 2.6 cap hit over a 2 year deal.

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dont understand why he cant do a one year deal... obviously hes a bit shaky as a long term prospect

i dont blame him for not locking in long term for low money... but a team would be insane to bump him into 4 mill long term too

if im gm.... i probably risk 3.5 on a one year deal though... i mean cam barker got near that on his last deal... its not an outrageous number to throw at a top 5 draft pick that has had some success

if winnipeg refuses to pay it.. im sure there are other teams that would eventually offer sheet the kid. hes worth the comp to a team thats going to be picking in the 20's anyhow

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Nobody is saying that. So why are you making things up?
Just add him to your ignore list.

And if you dont quote him, I wont have to read his trash either.

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dont understand why he cant do a one year deal... obviously hes a bit shaky as a long term prospect

i dont blame him for not locking in long term for low money... but a team would be insane to bump him into 4 mill long term too

if im gm.... i probably risk 3.5 on a one year deal though... i mean cam barker got near that on his last deal... its not an outrageous number to throw at a top 5 draft pick that has had some success

if winnipeg refuses to pay it.. im sure there are other teams that would eventually offer sheet the kid. hes worth the comp to a team thats going to be picking in the 20's anyhow
Any more insane than Philly with JVR?

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I would say 4 years 20 million would be in the ballpark. It is no too long of a deal on Winnipegs side of things, and I believe it would take Bogosian to UFA where he could negotiate a better deal. Pretty much a win-win.

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arsmaster please just leave this forum.

From when fans say that he deserves to get a first, a top prospect, a top 4 dman and a prospect dman. It sure seems like they think he is worth 5+. (a proposal for Bogosian)

And JVR was signed for so much cause he has shown steady improvement and played great in the playoffs. Something Bogosian has yet to do.

JVR also is becoming a first/second line player for the first time in his career and Holmgren thought it'd be good to sign him before he gets close to a point per game...

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arsmaster please just leave this forum.

From when fans say that he deserves to get a first, a top prospect, a top 4 dman and a prospect dman. It sure seems like they think he is worth 5+. (a proposal for Bogosian)

And JVR was signed for so much cause he has shown steady improvement and played great in the playoffs. Something Bogosian has yet to do.

JVR also is becoming a first/second line player for the first time in his career and Holmgren thought it'd be good to sign him before he gets close to a point per game...
lol Taking things out of context now?

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I would say 4 years 20 million would be in the ballpark. It is no too long of a deal on Winnipegs side of things, and I believe it would take Bogosian to UFA where he could negotiate a better deal. Pretty much a win-win.
Need I say more arsmaster?

And Fehr Time the whole idea is to get his UFA years if you are going to pay him big money. For example, eat up some of them if your are going to overvalue him. So a 7/35million deal would be more appropiate for the money your proposing.

They asked for first, Hodgson, Tanev, and Ballard for unsigned Bogosian. It was a trade proposed yesterday...

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I'm thinking a Carey Price deal for short term or a bit tiny less than a JVR for a long term contract.

I don't know why but I have a feeling Bogo might not want to sign long term.. pure speculation though

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Need I say more arsmaster?

And Fehr Time the whole idea is to get his UFA years if you are going to pay him big money. For example, eat up some of them if your are going to overvalue him. So a 7/35million deal would be more appropiate for the money your proposing.
That's rich.

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It's difficult to come up with perfect comparisons to Bogosian since most guys his age aren't up for a new contract yet. I mean, his peers include guys like Doughty, Pietrangelo, Myers, and Schenn. Doughty's well documented, the second two are still on their ELC, and Schenn's camp is also holding out.

So it's tough to get an idea of what a defenseman his age and his RFA status would warrant, unless you want to start comparing him to guys a bit older, like Karl Alzner, Jack Johnson, Kris Letang, Nick Hjalmarsson, or Marc Eduard Vlasic.

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It's difficult to come up with perfect comparisons to Bogosian since most guys his age aren't up for a new contract yet. I mean, his peers include guys like Doughty, Pietrangelo, Myers, and Schenn. Doughty's well documented, the second two are still on their ELC, and Schenn's camp is also holding out.

So it's tough to get an idea of what a defenseman his age and his RFA status would warrant, unless you want to start comparing him to guys a bit older, like Karl Alzner, Jack Johnson, Kris Letang, Nick Hjalmarsson, or Marc Eduard Vlasic.
IMO Alzner is a good person to compare with. So about 2.6 million a year.

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I really hope MTL would be takers if Bogo was on the market. I really like his game and he would fit in perfectly with the defenders in mtl.

I was pretty high on the kid when he was drafted, and I don't think 1 bad season should hinder peoples assessment of his skillset.

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Need I say more arsmaster?

And Fehr Time the whole idea is to get his UFA years if you are going to pay him big money. For example, eat up some of them if your are going to overvalue him. So a 7/35million deal would be more appropiate for the money your proposing.

They asked for first, Hodgson, Tanev, and Ballard for unsigned Bogosian. It was a trade proposed yesterday...
Proposed by the Jets fan base collectively, right?

He will probably get between $3-$4 million per year.

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It's difficult to come up with perfect comparisons to Bogosian since most guys his age aren't up for a new contract yet. I mean, his peers include guys like Doughty, Pietrangelo, Myers, and Schenn. Doughty's well documented, the second two are still on their ELC, and Schenn's camp is also holding out.

So it's tough to get an idea of what a defenseman his age and his RFA status would warrant, unless you want to start comparing him to guys a bit older, like Karl Alzner, Jack Johnson, Kris Letang, Nick Hjalmarsson, or Marc Eduard Vlasic.
The comparable as I see it is: Erik Johnson 2yr 5.2m add dollars for cap rise, he should be inline for a 2 year deal for just shy of 3million per season.

OT. Its funny when someone is on your ignore list and they reply to your posts, and you only see their replies in other peoples replies. Amusing.

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