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08-17-2004, 09:15 PM
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Whats Iggy worth if Big Joe got 6.75

What would you sign Iggy to considering Thornton got 6.75M. I'd say Iggy would deserve 7M again in the new CBA b/c of his monsterous playoffs this past year. If Iggy had this season when Holik signed for 5yr/45M he'd have cashed in huge on 5yr/55m-60m (but not with Calgary, as they couldn't afford him).

If I were Sutter i'd be offering 3yr/21m or 4yr/28m.

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I wouldn't necessarily offer it, but he'll probably ask for a raise.

Something like 2 years/15 million.

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2-3 years, 7.25 per

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I definitely think 7.5 is what he will get, but I don't see 8 million as out of reach. I can see him signing for 3yr/23 million

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7-7.5 seems reasonable to me. Injuries aside, Joe was crap in the playoffs. Guys like Koivu and Lang still did well in the playoffs and had considerable injuries as well.

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If your speaking of arbitration, players can not use contracts signed by other players when they were UFA, so in this case the Holik signing would have no bearing.

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7-7.5 seems reasonable to me. Injuries aside, Joe was crap in the playoffs. Guys like Koivu and Lang still did well in the playoffs and had considerable injuries as well.
I just can't wait for Thornton to prove himself in the playoffs. One series where he was exceptional was two seasons ago, getting 6 points in 6 game, yet we lost the series because of Jose Theodore. Once Thornton can do very well in the playoffs, we can probably get past the first round.

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If your speaking of arbitration, players can not use contracts signed by other players when they were UFA, so in this case the Holik signing would have no bearing.

I know that, but if Holik got 5yr/45m (9m/season), if I were Iggys agent i'd be asking for 11-13m per season. Now i'd be asking Sutter for 8m season but he'll probably end up with either 7m or 7.5m

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I know that, but if Holik got 5yr/45m (9m/season), if I were Iggys agent i'd be asking for 11-13m per season. Now i'd be asking Sutter for 8m season but he'll probably end up with either 7m or 7.5m
Iginla shouldn't be asking for more because Holik went on the free agent market to the highest bidder. Iginla would be insane to ask for over 10 mil.

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I just can't wait for Thornton to prove himself in the playoffs. One series where he was exceptional was two seasons ago, getting 6 points in 6 game, yet we lost the series because of Jose Theodore. Once Thornton can do very well in the playoffs, we can probably get past the first round.
If you are not playing against montreal lol

Iggy should get at least 8 millions, comparing his performances with thornton's

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If Thornton gets 6.75 million, Iginla deserves at least 8 million.

Iginla is the best complete player in the NHL and has tons of leadership. He carried his team into the stanley cup finals, something I don't see Thornton doing anytime soon.

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If Thornton gets 6.75 million, Iginla deserves at least 8 million.

Iginla is the best complete player in the NHL and has tons of leadership. He carried his team into the stanley cup finals, something I don't see Thornton doing anytime soon.
I don't think I would say Iginla 'carried' the Flames to the Cup finals. Detroit held him off the score sheet very well. Kiprusoff carried the Flames to the finals if anyone did.


I'd agree with the 3yr/$23M deal infinitesadd suggested

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I don't think I would say Iginla 'carried' the Flames to the Cup finals. Detroit held him off the score sheet very well. Kiprusoff carried the Flames to the finals if anyone did.


I'd agree with the 3yr/$23M deal infinitesadd suggested
Kipper had his say too but I don't see how you can say that Iginla hasn't carried the flames into the finals, he was pretty much the only big offensive threat.

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If Thornton gets 6.75 million, Iginla deserves at least 8 million.

Iginla is the best complete player in the NHL and has tons of leadership. He carried his team into the stanley cup finals, something I don't see Thornton doing anytime soon.

if Thornton is worth 6.75 mil...not, then Iginla is worth 13.5 mill given hes at least twice a good as Thornton


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if Thornton is worth 6.75 mil...not, then Iginla is worth 13.5 mill given hes at least twice a good as Thornton


You know, I'm a Habs fan but if I had a choice of any centers in the NHL for my team, Thornton would be second behind Lecavalier.

Come on there, don't let your red and blue goggles affect you.

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You know, I'm a Habs fan but if I had a choice of any centers in the NHL for my team, Thornton would be second behind Lecavalier.

Come on there, don't let your red and blue goggles affect you.
makes no sense but its your choice.

Thornton will never carry a team like Inginla did, he just doesnt have it in him.
kind of reminds me of Sundin, same deal for him too.
Iginla over those two put together.

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kind of reminds me of Sundin, same deal for him too.
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makes no sense but its your choice.

Thornton will never carry a team like Inginla did, he just doesnt have it in him.
kind of reminds me of Sundin, same deal for him too.
Iginla over those two put together.
So if it is about leading, then the same thing could be said about Koivu. He never lead the habs past the second round. Alfredsson has never brought the sens to the cup final. The list goes on.

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Does nobody remember Joe Thorton being injured in the first round of the playoffs but me? Maybe that's why his production was so low.

Also, Detroit held Iginla almost silent in their series. If that had been in the first round than you would all be going crazy about how Iggy doesn't deserve a pay raise and he can't lead his team. The point is, one series doesn't dictate a players career.

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You know, I'm a Habs fan but if I had a choice of any centers in the NHL for my team, Thornton would be second behind Lecavalier.

Come on there, don't let your red and blue goggles affect you.
Come on there, don't let your red and blue goggles affect you . If you honestly believe that Vinny is in the same category as Joe, then you must either be blind or French. I'm going to go with the latter. Seriously though. I like Vinny too, but there is no way that he is even in the same category as Joe. Joe is the better player, hands down.

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Come on there, don't let your red and blue goggles affect you . If you honestly believe that Vinny is in the same category as Joe, then you must either be blind or French. I'm going to go with the latter. Seriously though. I like Vinny too, but there is no way that he is even in the same category as Joe. Joe is the better player, hands down.
lol you picked the wrong one to accuse of being a fan of Lecavalier only because he's french. I HATE the guy, I despise him, I hate his attitude, it's like he thinks he's better than everyone but I'd take him as my first center above everyone in the league right now. He's got awesome skill, good size and doesn't choke in the playoffs and he's still young.

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Does nobody remember Joe Thorton being injured in the first round of the playoffs but me? Maybe that's why his production was so low.
Koivu also had a bad rib injury and it didn't seem to affect him. Time to realize Thornton is just not a big game player. His career playoff numbers are hardly awe inspiring and one of the main causes of the Bruins lack of playoff success.

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Koivu also had a bad rib injury and it didn't seem to affect him. Time to realize Thornton is just not a big game player. His career playoff numbers are hardly awe inspiring and one of the main causes of the Bruins lack of playoff success.
If you take out this years injury(he was supposed to be out for six weeks but started the series and it just got worse) and his rookie season (where he played 4-5 mins a game) he would have 18 points in 22 games.

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