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09-16-2011, 05:39 PM
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The origins of the Vancouver-Chicago rivalry

Now, before a Canucks or Blackhawks fan flames me, let me be clear: I think that the rivalry between the two teams traces back to much further than just the past 3 seasons.

However, anyone knows how that rivalry began?

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i don't think it does. Nobody here disliked the Hawks until they took Vancouver out the first, and especially second time. Before that, the rivalry was with the Avalanche.

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A game in Chicago in in the 1982 playoffs that began the hockey tradition of Towel Power! (google it). I was one of those waving a white towel for the Canucks next home game in the series, one of the most intense games I've ever seen!



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09-16-2011, 11:34 PM
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Vancouver and Chicago have had a rivalry ever since 1982, though it died down in the mid-90's until recently.

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May 14, 1973: Traded to Chicago by Vancouver for Jerry Korab and Gary Smith, May 14, 1973.

Where it all really began with Dale Tallon.

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09-17-2011, 12:20 PM
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May 14, 1973: Traded to Chicago by Vancouver for Jerry Korab and Gary Smith, May 14, 1973.

Where it all really began with Dale Tallon.
I don't think Vancouver hated Chicago that much back in 1973.

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I don't think Vancouver hated Chicago that much back in 1973.
I was joking, the current rivalry only goes back the last 3 series.

The reality is that rivalries are few and far in between in the NHL with division shifts and fluctuations of team rosters.

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09-17-2011, 12:42 PM
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Yeah it really only traces back to 2009. That isn't to say that there haven't been some playoff moments between the two however. 1982 was brought up, but how about 1995? A sweep from Chicago but three overtime games needed, with two goals from Chelios which are eerily in the exact same spot each time. Creepy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIHT10X15xw

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Didn't it begin when burrows was pulling keith's hair before their first playoff meeting in 2009

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09-18-2011, 09:36 AM
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Thanks for your cooperation.

Yet there are so many who say that, as great as this rivalry can be today, it would be short-lived at best.

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I'm sure if you went through the last 40 years you could find enough instances of the Canucks and Hawks not liking each other, but the actual hating the uniform on sight phenomenon is pretty much back like the OP said to the last 3 seasons. Gino Odjick's first game in the NHL comes to mind. Fought Manson, fought Grimson. Drew even with one, beat the living smack out of the other (can't remember which was which). It's not as if that ever comes up during the flamefests that break out here or anywhere else.

Both teams are good now and competing for the same goals now. If they don't meet in the playoffs for a few years running, it'll calm down. They'll both have other teams to focus on.

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The rivalry only goes back to '09 when the Hawks eliminated the Canucks 2 years in a row in the playoffs.
Honestly, if the Canucks and their fans didnt choose to make it such a bitter rivalry it wouldnt be much of a rivalry.
In the eyes of most Hawks fans, Detroit is still a bigger rival than Vancouver is because of the history.
If Vancouver and Chicago continue to be the 2 dominant teams in the west every year it will continue to be a rivalry but if either team stops being a playoff team, the rivalry will die because theres really nothing that makes Chicago and Vancouver rivals. Its not as if its a divisional rival or a border battle.

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Yes, this. Byfuglien started it. He and Eager are still very disliked in Vancouver.

I think the rivalry is all but dead now according to Canucks fans.

Brouwer, Byfuglien, Eager, Burish, Ladd are all gone.

Bolland, Kane and Carcillo might incite some hate but I doubt it.

This helped as well:


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Didn't it begin when burrows was pulling keith's hair before their first playoff meeting in 2009
Yes, this was the start of the bad blood. Its also the reason Kevin Bieksa made sure to duck Ben Eager in the Sharks series this year. The rivalry escalated from there, but this altercation was the start of it.

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I think the rivalry is all but dead now according to Canucks fans.

I do not think so at all...now it just becomes more intense because the hawks get better again and brought in some muscle


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That had nothing to do with the rivalry just a good clean check...its just something the Canucks fans can hold onto because there wasnt much else too until the playoffs last year.

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I'm highly suspect of anyone that says the rivaly is over. I fully expect that first game back to be a blood bath, especially if the score gets lopsided one way or the other.

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Started with Buff punching Luongo in the head.

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09-19-2011, 10:45 PM
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Folks, I acknowledge that most of the bad blood happened in the last 3 seasons but there has been bad blood back in 1982 and 1995.

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I think the Hawks/Stars were bigger rivals in the 80's - Hawks/Stars, Hawks/Leafs, Hawks/Oilers..

Then the Stars moved and the old Norris was broken up, I suppose the Avs and Leafs were rivals at that point, and Detroit was just starting to become a legitimate contender..

I suppose my point is that the Hawks really never had a rivalry with the Nucks until 2009... Yeah, there has always been bad blood - at least since 1982 but the Hawks always had higher priority rivalries..

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I think the rivalry is all but dead now according to Canucks fans.
Yeah, Im pretty sure the rivalry isnt over. Toews has said Im sure every other player from the team last year cant wait to get some revenge on Vancouver for that playoff series last year.

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All I see there is a huge dive by Luongo. Youre telling me that a puck can hit you in the face and youre fine but Buff gives you a little shove with a gloved hand and you fall over like someone just shot you? Give me a break.

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I think the Hawks/Stars were bigger rivals in the 80's - Hawks/Stars, Hawks/Leafs, Hawks/Oilers..

Then the Stars moved and the old Norris was broken up, I suppose the Avs and Leafs were rivals at that point, and Detroit was just starting to become a legitimate contender..

I suppose my point is that the Hawks really never had a rivalry with the Nucks until 2009... Yeah, there has always been bad blood - at least since 1982 but the Hawks always had higher priority rivalries..
Likewise, I don't think the Canucks fanbase considered the Hawks their main rival until their second loss in 2010 ... Big Buff's antics were a big part of that.

Although 1982 will be remembered, if only for giving us Towel Power.

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