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09-16-2011, 05:34 PM
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edmonton's 2011-12 Defence Crew

Just curious how you see as your top 6 defencemen this year?

Who will be the #1PP unit?

How do Alex Plante and Jeff Petry fit into things?

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09-16-2011, 05:38 PM
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http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=33403

That pretty much shows you what they are looking at. Petry and Chorney will probably battle for the 7th spot. Plante will be OKC bound.

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09-16-2011, 05:42 PM
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That pretty much shows you what they are looking at. Petry and Chorney will probably battle for the 7th spot. Plante will be OKC bound.
What does the future hold for plante and Petry? Do u see much upside?

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What does the future hold for plante and Petry? Do u see much upside?
I could see Petry turning into a regular NHL Dman, I don't really see Plante getting there.

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http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=33403

That pretty much shows you what they are looking at. Petry and Chorney will probably battle for the 7th spot. Plante will be OKC bound.
Just that Petry is slotted as #7 doesn't mean he's fighting for the last spot on the roster. Petry still has a fair bit of development to do, while people aren't expecting much out of Chorney anymore.

The smart money is on Petry playing in the AHL if he can't crack Edmonton's top-4 and being call-up for injury replacement.

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Just that Petry is slotted as #7 doesn't mean he's fighting for the last spot on the roster. Petry still has a fair bit of development to do, while people aren't expecting much out of Chorney anymore.

The smart money is on Petry playing in the AHL if he can't crack Edmonton's top-4 and being call-up for injury replacement.
Sorry I shouldn't have said 7th spot, but they are both fighting for a spot on the team all be it different spots.

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09-16-2011, 09:16 PM
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Ever see Petry running the PP?

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Let's cut to the chase - I would draft Petry in the 1st round of your dynasty league.

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Plante is out of the question, the final spot will come down between Chorney and Petry. Chorney probably gets the nod because he's waiver eligible. That said Petry has the skill to put up points if he can bring some consistency to the NHL game.

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Let's cut to the chase - I would draft Petry in the 1st round of your dynasty league.
I think you mean Plante

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Plante is out of the question, the final spot will come down between Chorney and Petry. Chorney probably gets the nod because he's waiver eligible. That said Petry has the skill to put up points if he can bring some consistency to the NHL game.
Agreed. I can see Petry playing the role of Omark this year. He'll most likely be good enough to make the team but the contract situation will force him to be the odd man out.

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09-16-2011, 10:14 PM
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Just curious how you see as your top 6 defencemen this year?

Who will be the #1PP unit?

How do Alex Plante and Jeff Petry fit into things?
Whitney-Gilbert
Barker-Smid
Peckham-Sutton
Chorney/Petry

Whitney and Barker will power the point on the first unit.

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09-17-2011, 08:26 AM
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Whitney-Gilbert
Barker-Smid
Peckham-Sutton
Chorney/Petry

Whitney and Barker will power the point on the first unit.
...and after Whitney and Smid are out injured for their traditional large chunks of the season it'll look like this...

Barker-Gilbert
Petry-Sutton
Chorney-Peckham
Plante/Teubert/Fedun/other AHL Fodder

Welcome to lotto land once again.

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09-17-2011, 09:00 AM
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Petry being the only other RHD has a good chance of getting paired up with Whitney for a chunk of the season. Especially if Renney wants Gilbert and Whitney on seperate pairings.

Smid-Gilbert
Whitney-Petry
Peckham-Barker
Sutton
Chorney

Chorney will be a #6 dman and nothing more but Petry could be on our top pairing this year.. He may also be an AHLer for majority of the season.

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09-17-2011, 10:04 AM
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I still think people are selling Taylor Chorney short on this board. I expect him to start the season on the Oilers roster and nail down a top 4 spot as the season progresses. He is likely a bottom pairing guy/7th d-man on a playoff team, but this is not a playoff team, and I would rather see him getting 20 minutes a night than Andy Sutton.

Petry will be in the AHL to start the year. It's a business, and the business side of things say it must be so. He will be the #1 callup, assuming he goes down there and does his job. There was apparently an issue with his play/attitude? when he was sent down last year, so if that happens again I would expect that his days in Edmonton are numbered, and Alex Plante/Corey Potter would become the #1 callup.

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Petry has a lot of offensive flair to his game don't get me wrong, but in his own zone he struggled last season in OKC I thought. He was among the worst D men in +/- throughout the whole season. Granted he started the season bad has a lot to do with it, but I think he was far from a stud in the AHL... which is why I have a hard time thinking he deserves to be a top pairing in EDM this season. If he's on the top pairing it's because they want to pair him with Whitney, not because he's a legitimate top paring D in my opinion.

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I still think people are selling Taylor Chorney short on this board. I expect him to start the season on the Oilers roster and nail down a top 4 spot as the season progresses. He is likely a bottom pairing guy/7th d-man on a playoff team, but this is not a playoff team, and I would rather see him getting 20 minutes a night than Andy Sutton.

Petry will be in the AHL to start the year. It's a business, and the business side of things say it must be so. He will be the #1 callup, assuming he goes down there and does his job. There was apparently an issue with his play/attitude? when he was sent down last year, so if that happens again I would expect that his days in Edmonton are numbered, and Alex Plante/Corey Potter would become the #1 callup.
I don't know what Chorney has done to convince you people are selling him short. In the three seasons since he turned pro he is a combined -80 between the NHL and AHL. He's an undersized offensive defenseman that doesn't put up a ton of points and is pretty bad defensively. Even last season he was -5 in 12 games while playing 3rd pairing minutes.

Chorney seems like a nice guy and all but unless we're missing about 3 or 4 players on the back end, I don't see him cracking the top 4 any time soon.

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I don't know what Chorney has done to convince you people are selling him short. In the three seasons since he turned pro he is a combined -80 between the NHL and AHL. He's an undersized offensive defenseman that doesn't put up a ton of points and is pretty bad defensively. Even last season he was -5 in 12 games while playing 3rd pairing minutes.

Chorney seems like a nice guy and all but unless we're missing about 3 or 4 players on the back end, I don't see him cracking the top 4 any time soon.
That's exactly it. The only way Chorney could carve out a role for himself as No.6-7 defenseman is if were better defensively. The problem is he's one of the worst defensive defenseman in the organization right now (NHL and AHL). I don't understand why they are wasting time with the likes of Chorney and Motin who will never amount to anything in the NHL. Just cut the bait already and make space on the farm for the new wave of prospects (Marincin, Davidson, Blain should all be there if not this, then next season. Klefbom, Musil, Gernat are probably not far away either.

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I don't know what Chorney has done to convince you people are selling him short. In the three seasons since he turned pro he is a combined -80 between the NHL and AHL. He's an undersized offensive defenseman that doesn't put up a ton of points and is pretty bad defensively. Even last season he was -5 in 12 games while playing 3rd pairing minutes.

Chorney seems like a nice guy and all but unless we're missing about 3 or 4 players on the back end, I don't see him cracking the top 4 any time soon.
And all of these stats people keep throwing out about Chorney's plus minus never take into account the fact that he has played on awful teams. Petry gets all the love aroung here IMO, Chorney's mobility will be the reason he passes Sutton/Peckham on the depth chart. We have one defenseman likely to start the season on the NHL club whose strengths include moving the puck out of his own zone, and that is Whitney. Barker/Peckham/Smid/Gilbert/Sutton all struggle in this area. We NEED Chorney to step up, and at some point this year we will NEED Petry to as well.

Does everyone here fail to realize that Petry is the same age(7 months younger) that Chorney is? Chorney was -1 in 46 games for the Barons last year while Petry was -6 in 41 games for the Barons. I hate the stat, but if you are going to use it for your argument, I think it is reasonable to see that it actually favored Chorney last year.

I like Petry, and the fact he is a right handed shot and a big kid is great and will help him become an Oiler at some point this year, but I also like Chorney, and the fact that he is mobile and cerebral will help him become an Oiler at the START of this year.

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I don't think they'll be able to hold Petry down. He did VERY well last year, especially given his inexperience and the role they forced on him.

My guess is that Petry's in the opening night lineup and both Sutton and Chorney are in the PB along with just one forward.

First call-up is Potter, second is Fedun.

By the end of the year, I fully expect Edmonton to either have traded or semi-permanently installed all of Sutton, Barker, and Chorney in the PB, with Petry establishing himself as a full-timer and darkhorse Fedun stepping into the 6th d-man role.

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I don't think they'll be able to hold Petry down. He did VERY well last year, especially given his inexperience and the role they forced on him.

My guess is that Petry's in the opening night lineup and both Sutton and Chorney are in the PB along with just one forward.

First call-up is Potter, second is Fedun.

By the end of the year, I fully expect Edmonton to either have traded or semi-permanently installed all of Sutton, Barker, and Chorney in the PB, with Petry establishing himself as a full-timer and darkhorse Fedun stepping into the 6th d-man role.

Yes, I see no reason why they would want to keep Chorney if Petry is clearly better and, more importantly, NHL ready.
If they keep Petry, Chorney simply goes on waivers. If he gets claimed (doubtful), whatever...

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09-19-2011, 06:23 PM
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Petry and Peckam are the two best defensive prospects I have seen come out of the Oilers organization in.... I cant recall. They are literaly the only 2 Oiler D-men homegrown that Ive ever been excited about... That I can remember anyways. At least 10 years.

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Ever see Petry running the PP?
Yes. He is very good offensively. He's extremely fast and mobile and he has a good shot. Best case scenario is he is our #2 dman and plays opposite Whitney (including on the PP). More realistically, he should wind up at about Tom Gilbert's level with a bit better offense

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The Oilers defence will be the reason why the Oilers will get a top 3 pick in 2012.

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