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10-23-2011, 04:05 PM
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there's always a chance.

Parise-Richards-Gaborik would be a spicy trio.
Suter is a better D target than Weber. He'll be had for much less cap$ and if signed as a UFA, less assets (i.e. none). That said, we have to be careful with how we use our cap with many RFAs in 2013 (Sauer, McD, Anisimov, Stepan). I'm sure Sather will be his shrewd self and them all under decent cap numbers but we don't want to spend ourselves into a corner this summer. We probably will want to resign Prust. He'll probably get a hefty raise circa $1.8-2.0M per

Parise-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Calllahan
Kreider-Stepan-Hagelin
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

is that lineup financially sustainable? And we'll need a new backup unless we resign Biron.
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X 1 = Parise UFA
X 2 = Chris Kreider ELC
X 3 = Jesper Fasth ELC

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.500m) / Brad Richards ($6.666m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) /Jesper Fasth ($0.750m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust UFA($1.500m)
Michael Rupp ($1.500m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Tim Erixon ($1.750m)
Mikael del Zotto RFA ($1.500m) / Mike Sauer ($1.250m)
Vet D ($0.800m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Marty Biron UFA ($1.000m)

BUYOUTS: Chris Drury ($1.666m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,658,334; BONUSES: $1,462,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $641,666

Works capewise. Barely. With some tweeking - it could work in theory. But we will never see this lineup as a NYR team...
Might be a bit tight...

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10-24-2011, 11:50 AM
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Is there anything new on Staal?

Is he still having headaches?

Is he working out?

....Going this long without ANY news is starting to make me nervous...

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10-24-2011, 11:53 AM
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Idk but I have been having headaches and been dizzy the last few days too, maybe its this team. I won't call the rangers for help, clearly they don't know what to do.

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10-24-2011, 12:01 PM
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For those coming into this thread and asking if there is any update on Staal, dont you think that if there was an update either way it would posted here immediately?
I keep clicking on the thread looking for an update as well, but 9 times out of 10 its people too lazy to use google or just read through the thread.

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10-24-2011, 02:42 PM
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This is from the Friday/Saturday Globe and Mail

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Most recently, Staal has been spotted at the Ontario Migraine Clinic, which specializes in acupuncture treatment for headache sufferers. (The clinic was closed Friday and calls were not returned.)

He continues to skate on his own and harbours no open hostility towards the repentant Eric.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle2210177/

So Staal is skating? Did Staal go back home to Ontario? The Rangers won't even tell us that. The columnist Allan Maki spoke with Henry Staal for the column.

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A course of treatment involves a minimum of two treatments per week. The treatments may be received more frequently eg. 2-3 treatments per day (there must be a minimum of two and a half hours between treatments). This “stacking” of treatments is useful for those that are traveling a great distance to receive treatment. This increased frequency of treatment will shorten the number of weeks that treatment is needed.

The treatment that is administered at the Ontario Migraine Clinic is a form of acupuncture that is only offered at two clinics worldwide. The Ontario Migraine Clinic has been awarded as the most successful migraine clinic in the world. This award was received in December 2000 from The Open University of Complementary Medicine.
http://www.migraineclinic.ca/treatment.html

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10-24-2011, 02:44 PM
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i thought for a sec that he would be back at home opener and the Rangers were saving it as a surprise. well hoping anyway

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10-24-2011, 03:14 PM
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The salary cap is going down in the next CBA. The NHL is salivating at the NFLPA accepting 47% of the revenue after they made close to 60% in the last CBA. The NBA players receive 57% of the revenue in their last CBA. The NBA is offering a 50/50 split while the PA is offering 52.5%

The NHL players receive 57% of the revenue. The NHLPA can scream and yell about taking a cut but as Bill Guerin said last week to the NBA players

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"It's not worth it. Get a deal done," former Dallas Stars forward Bill Guerin said during a phone call last week.

There was not a single NHL player during the Great Lockout of 2004-05 who was a bigger proponent of the union's fight than this man. No one believed in the cause more than Guerin, and to hear him admit this is a bit stunning.

"I learned a big lesson: It's not a partnership. It's their league, and you are going to play when they want," he said.
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The piece of the pie: The NFL's recent labor deal saw players clawed back to 47 percent of the revenue. And there are those who believe the NBA players will be backed up close to, and perhaps to less than, 50 percent as well once that labor deal is eventually done. The NHL is paying close attention while trying not to outwardly drool. In the current deal, the players will get 57 percent of the pie this year. The league, one would guess, will cite the NFL and NBA as examples to try to lower that percentage. The players in turn will fight mighty hard against it. After all, they gave up the big one six years ago in the salary cap. Either way, the percentage of the pie is likely where the biggest battle will ensue. The lower the percentage to the players, the lower the salary cap will be -- hence lower salaries.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/preview2011/s...ning-agreement

Ryan Suter? Zach Parise? Now with the Rangers commitments and future commitments in a smaller cap world.

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10-24-2011, 05:07 PM
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The salary cap is going down in the next CBA. The NHL is salivating at the NFLPA accepting 47% of the revenue after they made close to 60% in the last CBA. The NBA players receive 57% of the revenue in their last CBA. The NBA is offering a 50/50 split while the PA is offering 52.5%

The NHL players receive 57% of the revenue. The NHLPA can scream and yell about taking a cut but as Bill Guerin said last week to the NBA players



Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/10...#ixzz1bjQUArva



http://espn.go.com/nhl/preview2011/s...ning-agreement

Ryan Suter? Zach Parise? Now with the Rangers commitments and future commitments in a smaller cap world.
Shhh....people don't want to be distracted by reality.

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10-24-2011, 05:41 PM
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There would have to be some kind of rollback on the cap hits of the players right? Presumably any new contracts would be signed with relation to whatever the new salary levels looked like. Free agents aren't going to get what free agents get now if all of the salaries get rolled back.

Wouldn't this mean that bringing in new FAs will be just as viable with a new CBA as with the current one? I'm not arguing the actual viability of bringing in big ticket FAs, just wondering if my reasoning makes sense.

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There would have to be some kind of rollback on the cap hits of the players right? Presumably any new contracts would be signed with relation to whatever the new salary levels looked like. Free agents aren't going to get what free agents get now if all of the salaries get rolled back.

Wouldn't this mean that bringing in new FAs will be just as viable with a new CBA as with the current one? I'm not arguing the actual viability of bringing in big ticket FAs, just wondering if my reasoning makes sense.
It should... but I feel like it might take a year for the FAs to realize this and not want pricetags in the whoa range.

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Please! Not another lockout, NHLPA! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! I was like not seeing my wife for a year.

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Please! Not another lockout, NHLPA! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! I was like not seeing my wife for a year.
fortunately i dont think we will have a lockout this time unless something drastic happens or the league has a bad year revenue wise which is very unlikely. the game has gotten better from6 years ago, more competitive, more teams making money, less teams struggling. plus the league is growing year after year as more people are starting to watch hockey. even this year with the nba lockout the nhl will deff make extra and prob make a on of new fans on the way. i think this time both sides would hopefully seem to agree any lockout will not benefit anybody this time and do a great deal of damage to the significant strides of progress during the past 6 years. this is just my opinion but i seem to see and hear more people talking about hockey and liking it way more now than i did 5 and 10 years ago. i know plenty of people who just became fans over the past 5 years. crosby and ovechkin were 2 guys they said are fun to watch. anyway imo, no i dont think we will have a lockout and god forbid knock on wood i think i just might kill myself. 04-05 was the worst and longest longest winter of my life. i cant even think of going through that again.

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10-25-2011, 06:29 AM
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The NHL will want the same terms as the NBA will get. Both of them are/were getting 57% of the revenue. It may not be fair for the NHL players after they gave up so much in 2005 but the NHL will want a lower % of the revenue going to the players with the business growing. The NBA was a $3.8B business last season and the players got 57%. The NBA projected $4.3B in revenue for this season. The NHL is a $3B business with the players getting 57%. The NHL business should increase this season with the NBC contract and Winnipeg selling out every game. The Canadian dollar is still strong. Its weaker than it was at the end of last season but its still trading even or above the USD. The 6 Canadian teams before Winnipeg came back accounted for 25%-30% of the NHL revenue.

Larry Brooks wrote about this in July

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Next time, the NHL is going to introduce the ultimate one-size-fits-all cap. Percentage of the gross will be dramatically reduced. The midpoint will essentially become the cap, with the ceiling and floor separated by perhaps $4 million-$6 million. Deviations of salary within a contract will be kept to a minimum. The cap charge will be defined by the average of the three-to-five highest salaried seasons. Contracts will be kept to a minimum of five-to-seven years.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz1bn8KOnj9

If the upper limit is $56.3M in the next CBA,where are the Rangers finding the room to add Parise or Suter or Bouwmeester when they already have $47-49M committed for next season? The Rangers can't add another $6M-$7M player.

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10-25-2011, 11:45 AM
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Jordan Staal admits it's hard on whole family, but said his family is giving his brother Marc lot of support. Sees lite at end of tunnel
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Is there ever a light at the end of a tunnel that features severe and prolonged post-concussion syndrome?

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10-25-2011, 12:19 PM
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yes but then you get headaches from it

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Eric should just sign with the NYR when he's FA, or request a trade...

that would lessen the blow.

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10-25-2011, 12:24 PM
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yes but then you get headaches from it
Damn. I was so close to saying something like this, but thought it was too lame.

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10-25-2011, 12:27 PM
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Also, and thankfully, Staal's symptoms aren't severe. Despite my joke, he doesn't have light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, and from all reports is 100% fine unless he really pushes himself hard with exercise.

That's not to say there isn't concern or that it's not an issue, but overall his symptoms aren't severe.

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Also, and thankfully, Staal's symptoms aren't severe. Despite my joke, he doesn't have light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, and from all reports is 100% fine unless he really pushes himself hard with exercise.

That's not to say there isn't concern or that it's not an issue, but overall his symptoms aren't severe.
It kind of seems severe if you're an athlete.

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10-25-2011, 01:51 PM
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Staal is suffering from headaches. He is getting treatment from a migraine specialist in Ontario. He had a cortisone shot in his neck for a disk issue 4 weeks ago yesterday. Plus he passed his baseline test in September. Weird situation.

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It kind of seems severe if you're an athlete.
No, severe is Marc Savard who can't live a normal life because of the brain damage he received.

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No, severe is Marc Savard who can't live a normal life because of the brain damage he received.
I probably haven't read the articles or quotes that you have read. The only specific thing I have read that is very recent is, "still bothered by the headaches brought on through exertion." I live with migraines. I get by. But it's pretty hard to live a normal life with headaches brought on by exertion. Whatever other details about him that I'm unaware of, I'd certainly like to know if you have that information. I haven't heard anything encouraging at all.

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Anyone think theres a chance they are keeping this quiet only to have him come out into the starting lineup on Thursday?

Reason being, there was that "announcement" to be made that never happened, and they were hinting it was about Staal and good news was attached to it.

I could be fishing here though.

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Anyone think theres a chance they are keeping this quiet only to have him come out into the starting lineup on Thursday?

Reason being, there was that "announcement" to be made that never happened, and they were hinting it was about Staal and good news was attached to it.

I could be fishing here though.
Just the opposite, it was probably an announcement about LTIR. ......

This doesn't sounds good in my opinion. I think he may be out longer than the majority of people believe...but I am a pessimist and I don't hold any special knowledge.

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