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08-18-2004, 08:45 PM
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Are the Avs going to keep Teemu Selanne and re-unite him with Damphousse?

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08-18-2004, 08:48 PM
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Rumor is Lacoix gave San Jose Wolski and Boychuk because he thought he had too many prospects in the system.
Wow.

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08-18-2004, 08:48 PM
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2 million/1 year
Thanks, tuzzi!

Well... that's really borderline for me. But then again Colorado have a pretty big wallet.

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08-18-2004, 08:51 PM
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Don't forget that Lacroix is very good friends with Damphousse since he was his agent way back...

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08-18-2004, 09:01 PM
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Well, I dont think the Avs will replace Forsberg with Damphousse, but its obvious he isn't coming back.

IMO, Colorado should trade for a guy like Gomez, who is in no way Forsberg, but would be one of the better hole fillers around.
Demitra would be nice?

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08-18-2004, 09:12 PM
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are they going to try and play him or Gratton on the wing? with Sakic, Forsberg, and Gratton down the middle i don't see the need for him. Gratton could play 4th line center i guess, but it's a waste at $1.5 million. i'd see Hendrickson more suitable for that role.
or he is taking the second line center spot and sakic is first line center as Forsberg is going to play in Sweden?

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08-18-2004, 09:13 PM
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Are the Avs going to keep Teemu Selanne and re-unite him with Damphousse?
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the thing is, he wont be playing with those guys.

people are saying he is a 3rd line center now, but what about gratton?

does this deal act as a safety net if forsberg doesnt come back?
I'm thinking the two will split duties as 2/3 line center. Neither are true second line centers at this moment, but both can contribute offensively if given the chance. I think its an excellent signing for the Avalanche.

I know PL has coveted Damphouse for the last few years. It looks like this time he gets the man he wants without giving up huge assets. Looking at this off-season for the Avs, I'm surprised and impressed with PL. Normally, he isn't one to sign UFA's, but this year he recognized that he needed some players and went out and got nice fillers at very ideal prices.

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08-18-2004, 09:37 PM
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Wow.

You should do stand-up.
I do. My names Carrottop. That's why my jokes suck without props.

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08-18-2004, 09:55 PM
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I've never been high on Damphousse. I think sometimes he's a bit of a wuss, but as far as results go, he's shown that he can still be a streaky offensive center with great vision. This deal CERTAINLY wasn't inked to replace Forsberg. Those who have said in this thread "it's obvious" regarding Forsberg leaving--I'd like to see a link confirming it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not overly optimistic that he'll stay, in fact, I'm preparing for that "what if" in case he's not back. But everyone who "assumes" he's leaving at this point in time is pretending that their random speculation is fact.

I think Damphousse, if anything, provides that Avs with that 2nd/3rd line pivot forward that they've been looking for ever since Reinprecht was dealt. People have said that Gratton could possibily be that guy. I think this deal nullifies such sentiments. Best case scenario sees both Gratton and Damphousse on the third line, worst case scenario sees them fighting it out for the #2 center spot at camp.

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I do. My names Carrottop. That's why my jokes suck without props.


You definitely should do stand-up.


I'm in line with most here: good signing; not a bad price considering the team that is paying him. On the whole he's an underrated player though obviously in decline. He didn't have a very good season last year but he had a fine playoff run which is something Colorado seems to need. Solid leadership which is something else I'd think Colorado could use, though it seems odd saying that considering all the veterans they have.

If Forsberg isn't coming back, Vinny should take the #2 spot over Gratton in my opinion. I doubt, though, that this is the only or even biggest move they'd make should Forsberg leave.

In the end, San Jose should be better for having not re-signed him. They have some quality young guys ready to step in full time. He's done his part teaching what he could from what we saw last year.

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And Colorado will once again wallow away into oblivion because they are buying players instead of developing players through their (horrendous) system and bringing in players who fill actual roles as opposed to players who are well-known names because of their scoring prowess.


Players who know how to play vs. Players who know how to score


Haven't people learned by now?


I can't wait to see the state of this franchise in 3 years...

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Cool. I put forth this scenario about 3 months ago. (Pats self on back) I vaguely remember people laughing at me when I mentioned it too.

I figured that he would be a cheap replacement for Forsberg, if Forsberg was indeed heading back to Sweden. Lacroix tried to snag Vinny before and with the strong playoffs he had this season and cheap salary ...it makes some sense.

Even if Forsberg doesn't head back to Sweden, we have Damphousse or Gratton who can move up if the injury bug hits ...and it usually does.

Tanguay/Forsberg/Hejduk
Konowalchuk/Sakic/Svatos
Damphousse/Gratton/Laaksonen
Worrell/Laperriere/Hinote

Blake/Vaananen
Foote/Liles
Skrastins/Boughner

Abby
Sauve

(Something like that maybe? )

There's some extra bodys layin around, like ...Hahl, Sauer, Hendrickson.


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Haven't people learned by now?
Yea I guess two cups , 9 straight division titles and 6 trips to the WCF in nine season does suck :lol

I'll like to see the state of every franchise in 3 years after the CBA gets fixed

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And Colorado will once again wallow away into oblivion because they are buying players instead of developing players through their (horrendous) system and bringing in players who fill actual roles as opposed to players who are well-known names because of their scoring prowess.
Indeed, because they stayed away from role players like Antti Laaksonen and Ian Laperriere and bought well-known names like Pavol Demitra and Ziggy Palffy.

Oh my bad, that never actually happened.

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Yea I guess two cups , 9 straight division titles and 6 trips to the WCF in nine season does suck :lol

I'll like to see the state of every franchise in 3 years after the CBA gets fixed
and half the team is leaving with one guy. Colorado was half the team without Forsberg this year. I'm not saying its a bad thing-the Wings would be half the team without Lidstrom, but they were having goal scoring problems in the playoffs as well and towards the end of the year. They gonna need to add a big name other than Damphousse...

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And Colorado will once again wallow away into oblivion because they are buying players instead of developing players through their (horrendous) system "
huh, last time i checked they had develop hejduk, drury, tanguay, skoula, vrbata, svatos, liles, aebischer, sauve, mccormick and hahl.

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"and bringing in players who fill actual roles as opposed to players who are well-known names because of their scoring prowess."

this quote doesnt really go with your first statement unless that first statement was sacrasm, so which is it, are they buying players like say the rangers or are they filling holes, cuz people complain about teams buying the cup but the avs have went out and filled holes in their forward lineup without overpaying for players.


Players who know how to play vs. Players who know how to score


Haven't people learned by now?


I can't wait to see the state of this franchise in 3 years...
it'll still be in better shape than the flyers

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or he is taking the second line center spot and sakic is first line center as Forsberg is going to play in Sweden?
the way i see it is there are 2 possibilities:

option 1 with forsberg:

tanguay-forsberg-hejduk
damphousse-sakic-svatos
konowalchuk-gratton-laperreire
laaksoonon-hendrickson-hinote
worrell-mclean-hahl

or option 2 with no forsberg

konowalchuk-sakic-hedjuk
tanguay-damphousse-svatos
laaksoonon-gratton-laperreire
worrell-hendrickson-hinote

either way looks like the avs have one if not the best forward crops in the league on paper.

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And Colorado will once again wallow away into oblivion because they are buying players instead of developing players through their (horrendous) system and bringing in players who fill actual roles as opposed to players who are well-known names because of their scoring prowess.


Players who know how to play vs. Players who know how to score


Haven't people learned by now?


I can't wait to see the state of this franchise in 3 years...

Brilliant comment. Please tell me what homegrown player could play a top six forward role in place of Damphousse? There isn't one. In my mind, getting a veteran who can fill that role and who showed up big in last years post season is a good move.

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Solid pickup for the Avalanche. Lacroix has done a great job in the offseason.

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You can't argue much with the signing, Lacroix got Damphousse pretty reasonably and only for one year. If he doesn't work out like Kariya or Selanne or is hitting the skids after the season you can wave him off to the airport. It's another example of how well PL does his job .....

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So does this mean that it's official Forsberg won't return to the NHL anymore?

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So does this mean that it's official Forsberg won't return to the NHL anymore?
i think is pretty obvious....especially with this signing
i would think vinny was going to be 3rd line center for avs, but they already have gratton.
forsberg is making an official decision after world cup, so i guess the waiting game is on.

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i think is pretty obvious....especially with this signing
i would think vinny was going to be 3rd line center for avs, but they already have gratton.
forsberg is making an official decision after world cup, so i guess the waiting game is on.
We'll see.. They're definitely a fair bit weaker without Forsberg. Damphouse is a decent and proven playmaker, but aside from leadership does not bring any other interesting qualities. Without Forsberg, the Avs are extremely soft up front. But we'll see how it all pans out..

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We'll see.. They're definitely a fair bit weaker without Forsberg. Damphouse is a decent and proven playmaker, but aside from leadership does not bring any other interesting qualities. Without Forsberg, the Avs are extremely soft up front. But we'll see how it all pans out..
soft? i beg to differ. less dangerous offensively is the words you're looking for. not soft.

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