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08-20-2004, 12:46 AM
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And that would be one hell of a team, at least offensivelly.

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Originally Posted by George Bachul
I hope everyone realizes that if the one with Florida were real and the Oilers signed Nedved, it would be


Smith-Van Ryn(First full NHL Season 37 points)


And the Oilers wouldn't be adding any more salary.
Looks pretty good to me, although i would make one more follow up trade. Move Laraque to make room for Rita, and free up a bit of salary for Jason Smith's raise, and Petr Nedved's bonuses. Gonz0's Lines:

1st line: Smyth-Jokinen-Hemsky - Hemsky gets 2 players that can bury the biscuit, and the Oiler's finally get a big 1st line center

2nd line: Torres-Nedved-Dvorak - A SOLID 2nd line, will provide excellent secondary scoring and make it harder for other teams to shut down our offense through checking lines.

3rd line: Moreau-Reasoner-York - All great 2 way players that could shut down top lines, while pitching a few goals here and there. Also a good way to keep York's stat's down with his contract being up after this season i believe.

4th line: Rita-Stoll-Pisani - The NEW "Bulldogs" line, but with much better hockey sense, and much more talent.

1st pairing: Smith-Van Ryn - Smith plays crease-clearer while Van Ryn's showes off his offensive flair.

2nd pairing: Staios-Bergeron - See above.

3rd pairing: Semenov-Ulanov - See above.


PB: Bishai, Cross

Not sure if Van Ryn and Co. could soak up brewer's minutes. although our top 6 forwards would be feared. Our PP would be in the top 15 at least one would think, especially with Bergeron and Van Ryn's contributions from the point. Cross/Ulanov/Staios/Semenov would have to go on some sort of a rotation so that the older d-men don't wear out like in last season(eg. Staios looked ragged the last 20 or so games).

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Originally Posted by tylerr
How about your opinions, Mizzy?

To San Jose: C Marty Reasoner
To Edmonton: D Jim Fahey

Yes, I feel that the Oilers already have a glut at centre, and Fahey has an offensive upside that few Oilers defenseman have. Deal from a position of strength to a position of need is always a good thing.

To Boston: C Shawn Horcoff, 2nd round pick in 2005
To Edmonton: D Hal Gill

No, mostly because I don't think much of Hal Gill.

To Washington: LW Jani Rita
To Edmonton: LW Matt Pettinger

Yes, for two reasons. One, Pettinger is a much more physical player than Rita, and two, he's got more of a grinder-type of mindset, whereas I think Rita, who looks like he'll probobly never be a top 6 forward in the NHL, I think will fail if he's asked to turn into a checker.

To Los Angeles: LW Brad Isbister
To Edmonton: D Joe Corvo

No, as much as I hate Isbister, Corvo is even worse. As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't move a 9th round pick for Corvo considering what he has done.

To Atlanta: D Frantisek Kaberle
To Edmonton: 3rd round pick in 2005

Appears I made a mistake on this trade. But yes I would have made this deal.

To Tampa Bay: D Alexei Semenov
To Edmonton: RW Dmitri Afanasankov

No, for the sole reason that I don't think Afanasankov is better than Hemsky, and I don't think he's suited to play in the bottom 6 at the same time.

To San Jose: D Eric Brewer, C Shawn Horcoff
To Edmonton: C Patrick Marleau

Yes, I would probobly make this deal, but not by a great deal. Marleau is a good goal scorer, but I've always felt he looks invisable far too often.

To New York (Islanders): LW Jani Rita, D Alexei Semenov
To Edmonton: Janne Niinimaa

Yes, I would make this deal in a HEARTBEAT. Semenov seems to be slipping in stock every day, and I'm left doubting if he'll ever be a top 4 man sometimes.

To Philadelphia: LW Ryan Smyth
To Edmonton: Simon Gagne

No, I wouldn't make this deal. Smyth I feel is flat out a better player than Gagne, not to mention that I think Smyth is about as 'Oilers hockey' as you can get, whereas I've always felt Gagne was a touch overrated.

To New Jersey: D Jason Smith
To Edmonton: G Ari Ahonen

Yes, I would make this deal. Subsequently, I'd pawn off Markkanen or Conklin afterwards. Ahonen I feel has franchise-goaltender capability, and his upside is higher than any goaltender in the Oilers system. Sure you've got Deslauriers and Dubnyk coming up, but neither of them are ready to start in the NHL right now. Ahonen is.

To Buffalo: G Jussi Markkanen, C Jesse Niinimaki
To Edmonton: G Martin Biron

No, I wouldn't make this one. I don't think Biron is any better than Conklin really.

To New York (Rangers): LW Brad Isbister
To Edmonton: C Jamie Lundmark

Saw off. Probobly wouldn't make it simply because Lundmark doesn't make a lot less than Izzy really.

To Anaheim: D Jason Smith
To Edmonton: D Vitali Vishnevsky, C Tim Brent

Yes, I would actually make this deal (this might surprise some people) - but only if it looks like the Oilers are going to not make the playoffs. Vishnevsky I'm not too high on, but he could be a valuable physical defenseman for a long time. Brent however I think is a solid player as you're gonna get. He could be another Jarett Stoll.

To Florida: D Eric Brewer, C Shawn Horcoff, LW Brad Isbister
To Edmonton: C Olli Jokinen, D Mike Van Ryn

Yes, I'd make this deal almost soley based on the fact that I think Jokinen is a monster. I feel he could be another Sundin - in fact, I'm sure he will be very, very soon. This kid I think can score 40 goals one of these years. Van Ryn is okay too, and adds an offensive dimension to the Oilers blueline that it BADLY needs.

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Ahonen isn't ready to start in the NHL...

He is not that good of a goaltender. Yes the river rats are a bad team, but so are the Panthers... at least luongo makes them competetive... Ahonen doesn't even do that.

I guarantee a 15th place finish in the conference if Ahonen is the starting goalie (i.e. 55+ games).

TheSpecialist - MacT thinks he was that good of a hockey player when in actuality he was no better then a Louie Debrusk.
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