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09-20-2011, 01:26 PM
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Can't baby Filatov in this situation, Lessard is a retard but the players know this is nothing compared to what happens in the NHL.

Bob Probert grabbed Zetterburg in his first Detroit Preseason practice and tooled him, and Zetterburg had to wonder what league he was getting into. Zetterburg bounced back and took it as an oppurtunity to show his teamates he couldn't be intimidated, and he won the respect of his teammates - hopefully Filatov does the same.

Last Night Filatov was good with the puck, but he wasn't really getting his body into it, he was more using his stick, still has a long way to to go physically (as in using his body) and maybe getting a lick from his teammate will make him realize he isnt the golden boy anymore and he'll have to get into the tracks sometimes to be a real NHL'er

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Maybe he's looking to get a job with the Columbus Blue Jackets....
when i read this, all i could think about was that clip from the first mighty ducks movie, where the ducks play the hawks in the finals and adam banks gets blindsided and the kid asks the other kid what he was doing, and he responded with "my job". hahahaha

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What a meathead. We have enough of those with Neil, Konopka and Carkner up in Ottawa already.

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Can't baby Filatov in this situation, Lessard is a retard but the players know this is nothing compared to what happens in the NHL.

Bob Probert grabbed Zetterburg in his first Detroit Preseason practice and tooled him, and Zetterburg had to wonder what league he was getting into. Zetterburg bounced back and took it as an oppurtunity to show his teamates he couldn't be intimidated, and he won the respect of his teammates - hopefully Filatov does the same.

Last Night Filatov was good with the puck, but he wasn't really getting his body into it, he was more using his stick, still has a long way to to go physically (as in using his body) and maybe getting a lick from his teammate will make him realize he isnt the golden boy anymore and he'll have to get into the tracks sometimes to be a real NHL'er
It's not a matter of babying anyone. It's totally irrelevant who it was that was receiving the hit. It was a dirty, stupid, unnecessary play, made even worse because he was inflicting it against his own teammate.

For what it's worth, Filatov came back and was right back in the corners.

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09-20-2011, 01:45 PM
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Do you think Lessard actually knew who he hit? Much less thought about what "lesson" he was sending to anyone? That could just have easily been Zibanejad, or Alfreddson or Spezza.

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09-20-2011, 01:47 PM
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To anyone who watched the scrimmage, who stood out? Goal scorers?

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Gutless. Who does that in a scrimmage?

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Jeebus, did Lessard even hit anyone last night? Because I didn't notice him except as a pylon

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Maybe he's looking to get a job with the Columbus Blue Jackets....
The first training camp off the lockout, Rick Nash got taken out by a meathead in practice and missed 28 games.

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Bob Probert grabbed Zetterburg in his first Detroit Preseason practice and tooled him, and Zetterburg had to wonder what league he was getting into. Zetterburg bounced back and took it as an oppurtunity to show his teamates he couldn't be intimidated, and he won the respect of his teammates - hopefully Filatov does the same.
Couldn't have happened. Probert was playing with Chicago between the time that Zetterberg was drafted and the time that he came over for good. Zetterberg was an NHL rookie in the 2002-03 season, by which time Probert had already retired and taken a job with the Blackhawks.

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This!!!

I want to see what Filatov can do with Spezza.

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09-20-2011, 02:12 PM
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yost is right.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Travi...-Why/134/38236

it's not just lessard who is to blame it's the damn organization for giving the guy a contract and then putting him on the ice with these guys.
i mean does he really have a shot at the nhl roster? why is he playing there?

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09-20-2011, 02:27 PM
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To anyone who watched the scrimmage, who stood out? Goal scorers?
There weren't many people there today (shout out to Big Marcus), so that was different than the weekend. Basically just staff and media.

Going from memory, the goals were Conboy (point shot), Carkner (point shot through a Spezza screen), somebody (?), and the overtime winner from Wiercioch (point shot through a Filatov screen). Going the other way it was Cowick (rebound), Cannone (rebound), and Ziba (rebound).

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-By now people know, but Lessard is an idiot. I kind of felt bad for him after. He knows he ****ed up. Filatov was playing quite well before the hit, and it was encouraging to see him come back and continue to look for the puck. He didn't shy away.

-Spezza and Karlsson seem to enjoy playing together. Two guys operating at a higher skill level than most.

-Butler was quiet again.

-Of the three scrimmages, today was Cowen's best. He's a beast.

-This may get me into trouble, but Da Costa reminds me of Alfie. Not to say he'll ever be God, but he's similar. Likes the puck, knows how to hold onto it to create space.

-Prince is really good. He doesn't look out of place at this level at all ("this level" not being the equivalent to an NHL game of course).

-Zibanejad was quiet. I have no way to prove this, but I think he has a lower body injury. He went off with something on Saturday, and he was talking with the trainer again today trying to shake something out of his legs between periods today. He scored, but it was an empty net tap in. Outside of that, he was kind of lost at times. Most of the scrimmage it was Da Costa with Michalek and Alfie, not Ziba. I think, if that's the supposed 2nd line centre spot, it's Da Costa's to lose at this point. Regin has consistently been with Foligno and Condra, which looks like a third line.

-Grant and Hoffman have quietly had good camps.

-Steve Stirling's a nice guy.

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09-20-2011, 02:41 PM
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Thanks. It's painful waiting for tomorrow's game.

I'm wondering if you're right about Zibanejad. He didn't have that jump in his game yesterday, maybe he's not feeling 100%?

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never liked Lessard..Hopefully Nikita's good to go!

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When's the last camp we had with no injuries? Last year Kuba, this year Winnie. I can't rmb before then

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Can't baby Filatov in this situation, Lessard is a retard but the players know this is nothing compared to what happens in the NHL.Bob Probert grabbed Zetterburg in his first Detroit Preseason practice and tooled him, and Zetterburg had to wonder what league he was getting into. Zetterburg bounced back and took it as an oppurtunity to show his teamates he couldn't be intimidated, and he won the respect of his teammates - hopefully Filatov does the same.

Last Night Filatov was good with the puck, but he wasn't really getting his body into it, he was more using his stick, still has a long way to to go physically (as in using his body) and maybe getting a lick from his teammate will make him realize he isnt the golden boy anymore and he'll have to get into the tracks sometimes to be a real NHL'er
This the kids need to know that the nhl is the most physical league on the planet,and by having the element of being drilled in practice it will help them realise this ,we cant just have players stickhandle around pylons in camp,we need to try and develop nhl players

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This the kids need to know that the nhl is the most physical league on the planet,and by having the element of being drilled in practice it will help them realise this ,we cant just have players stickhandle around pylons in camp,we need to try and develop nhl players
So this is the reason we signed Lessard! He is really a professor, teaching our young prospects the ropes about the physicality of the NHL. Now Nikita knows not to keep his head down while he is facing the boards or the opposing teams AHL/ECHL scrub will give you an elbow to the salad from behind.

C'mon, these guys know what the game is like. They know they are entering the best league in the world with some of the strongest guys. They don't need to be given a potential injury causing "wake-up" call by a bafoon who has no future with our organization.

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They're called enforcers Gordon, and you're going to need them when you play Iceland.

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Can't baby Filatov in this situation, Lessard is a retard but the players know this is nothing compared to what happens in the NHL.

Bob Probert grabbed Zetterburg in his first Detroit Preseason practice and tooled him, and Zetterburg had to wonder what league he was getting into. Zetterburg bounced back and took it as an oppurtunity to show his teamates he couldn't be intimidated, and he won the respect of his teammates - hopefully Filatov does the same.

Last Night Filatov was good with the puck, but he wasn't really getting his body into it, he was more using his stick, still has a long way to to go physically (as in using his body) and maybe getting a lick from his teammate will make him realize he isnt the golden boy anymore and he'll have to get into the tracks sometimes to be a real NHL'er
I`m okay with the hit as well, this is the NHL, keep your head up kid & don`t take anything for granted. Lessard is trying to get noticed as well, he may have over done it but don`t think that anyone else who has a shot to nail Filatov in the NHL will back off, they won`t. This is the kind of think that reminds him to keep his head up, luckily he was fine from it afterwards.

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So this is the reason we signed Lessard! He is really a professor, teaching our young prospects the ropes about the physicality of the NHL. Now Nikita knows not to keep his head down while he is facing the boards or the opposing teams AHL/ECHL scrub will give you an elbow to the salad from behind.

C'mon, these guys know what the game is like. They know they are entering the best league in the world with some of the strongest guys. They don't need to be given a potential injury causing "wake-up" call by a bafoon who has no future with our organization.
Nope we will just let them stickhandle around pylons,and pull playstation moves .Because thats what will make them effective nhlers,Filtov will be expected to pull a dangle in front of the net all while a chara type defender will be bearing down on him, get the point yet

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They're called enforcers Gordon, and you're going to need them when you play Iceland.

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Nope we will just let them stickhandle around pylons,and pull playstation moves .Because thats what will make them effective nhlers,Filtov will be expected to pull a dangle in front of the net all while a chara type defender will be bearing down on him, get the point yet
What the **** are you talking about? You're arguing that we should have players in camp who throw illegal, dirty hits, so that this will prepare the players?

Filatov wasn't dangling. He wasn't playing with his head down. He was along the boards battling and got hit from behind. There is no preparing for that. There's no lesson to be learned from this.

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If you look at this video you see Filatov just kinda there in pain but in background Carkner is kinda pushing Lessard around and giving him some words, haha atta boys Carks

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If you look at this video you see Filatov just kinda there in pain but in background Carkner is kinda pushing Lessard around and giving him some words, haha atta boys Carks

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What the **** are you talking about? You're arguing that we should have players in camp who throw illegal, dirty hits, so that this will prepare the players?

Filatov wasn't dangling. He wasn't playing with his head down. He was along the boards battling and got hit from behind. There is no preparing for that. There's no lesson to be learned from this.
And karlsson wasnt run by cooke,alfie blindsided by bell .I dont condone what lessard did, but he wasnt hurt and it will serve filtov well to always be aware of whom is on the ice

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