HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > San Jose Sharks
Notices

2011-2012 Fantasy Hockey Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
12-09-2011, 09:24 AM
  #101
rangerssharks414
Registered User
 
rangerssharks414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 8,431
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PattyFTW View Post
I was offered J. Johnson+Enroth for Backstrom(Goalie). My other goalies are Halak and Khabibulin. My defense is Green, Campbell, Fowler, Souray, and Vlasic. Is this a good trade? Because I have no idea.
I wouldn't do it.

rangerssharks414 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 06:12 PM
  #102
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
My deal to trade Havlat fell through. Višňovský is healthy now. Should I drop Havlat for him? My other worst forward is JVR and I could really use an extra d. Any help would be appreciated.

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 06:20 PM
  #103
hockeyball
HFBoards Sponsor
 
hockeyball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 15,281
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirbyDots View Post
My deal to trade Havlat fell through. Višňovský is healthy now. Should I drop Havlat for him? My other worst forward is JVR and I could really use an extra d. Any help would be appreciated.
I'd stick with Havlat, but that's just a gut call because I think he will start performing soon. He's too talented not to. I think he's just having trouble adjusting, especially with the team playing so poorly.

What I usually do is just wait for someone else to go IR, it's usually not a long wait. That way you don't make your player available to someone else who will come back to bite you later. In one league right now I have Pronger on IR, I nearly dropped someone to take him off IR but decided it made more sense to just keep him from other teams than to benefit mine slightly (difference between Pronger, and whoever i drop). Good decision because he went right back on IR.

hockeyball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 06:33 PM
  #104
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeyball View Post
I'd stick with Havlat, but that's just a gut call because I think he will start performing soon. He's too talented not to. I think he's just having trouble adjusting, especially with the team playing so poorly.

What I usually do is just wait for someone else to go IR, it's usually not a long wait. That way you don't make your player available to someone else who will come back to bite you later. In one league right now I have Pronger on IR, I nearly dropped someone to take him off IR but decided it made more sense to just keep him from other teams than to benefit mine slightly (difference between Pronger, and whoever i drop). Good decision because he went right back on IR.
Yeah, I decided to keep Havlat for now. My league doesn't do an IR so if a player is injured they are just stuck on your roster. Right now I have an injured St Louis on my bench. My problem has been getting playing time for my forwards, having too many Sharks doesn't help either. I think Havlat has potential to turn it around once the team gets its collective head outta their butt. Basically most of my forwards are preforming very well at the moment, I have Parise and Ryan and they are actually showing signs of life now, my worst two are now Havs and JVR. So I was considering adding more depth on d, which I had to drop one to accommodate Enroth while Miller was out. Basically would you do JVR for Višňovský?

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 06:47 PM
  #105
KpopandHockey
HFBoards Sponsor
 
KpopandHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 8,045
vCash: 500
How many dmen do you have? couldn't you drop one of your healthy dmen? I don't usually keep more than 1 excess dman. (I don't know how successful this strategy is, as it's my first year doing fantasy hockey)

KpopandHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 07:09 PM
  #106
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KpopandHockey View Post
How many dmen do you have? couldn't you drop one of your healthy dmen? I don't usually keep more than 1 excess dman. (I don't know how successful this strategy is, as it's my first year doing fantasy hockey)
None. I had been keeping one extra d then I had to drop him when Miller went out so I could take on Enroth. Having no IR sucks. So I would be dropping one of my several extra forwards for Višňovský. I'm leaning toward JVR at the moment.

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 07:10 PM
  #107
magic school bus
Registered Loser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,472
vCash: 500
If you still have Enroth, then I'd cut him instead.

How deep is this league? I know this might sound crazy, but I'd consider cutting Visnovsky instead (since you already have an injured forward - MSL). Havlat is almost cuttable at this point (of course this depends on the league size), but if you were already leaning there I would say to give him a bit more time.

First, I'd see if anyone else wants Visnovsky. JVR is too good to cut, especially with Giroux out = more ice time .. more pts should follow.

magic school bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 07:21 PM
  #108
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
Its a pretty deep league. I already cut Enroth when Miller got healthy. Basically its 9 forwards, 5 d, 1 utility, 2 goalies with 4 max and a 5 man bench. I've found one extra d is the way to go. Right now I have 3 Goalies, 5d, and the rest are forwards. Basically I could really use the extra d as too many of my forwards are riding the bench nightly.

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 07:27 PM
  #109
magic school bus
Registered Loser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,472
vCash: 500
hmm.. tough one.. other than Havlat or Giroux, who would be the next guy you'd cut?

magic school bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 07:29 PM
  #110
KpopandHockey
HFBoards Sponsor
 
KpopandHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 8,045
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirbyDots View Post
Its a pretty deep league. I already cut Enroth when Miller got healthy. Basically its 9 forwards, 5 d, 1 utility, 2 goalies with 4 max and a 5 man bench. I've found one extra d is the way to go. Right now I have 3 Goalies, 5d, and the rest are forwards. Basically I could really use the extra d as too many of my forwards are riding the bench nightly.
I'm in one of the HF leagues with 9F, 4D, 2G, 4Bench.

I run 4D, 3G, 12F and only 2 days a week (at very most) I will end up having 1 or 2 players on the bench who are going.

Granted, I'm not an expert at fantasy hockey but it seems to me like the extra flexibility at forward during days other than Saturday is far more important than not having 1 D going on Saturday and 2 fowards on bench that are going but you can't fit.

On average being able to play that 1 forward during a day other than Sat is going to give you more points than having extra D on bench so when Saturday every position players are going. It's basically sacrificing a lineup slot on Sat for 1-2 off days with some extra forward points.

KpopandHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 09:57 PM
  #111
rangerssharks414
Registered User
 
rangerssharks414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 8,431
vCash: 500
I don't like having a defenseman on the bench as a personal preference. Forwards get more points.

rangerssharks414 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 10:00 PM
  #112
magic school bus
Registered Loser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,472
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rangerssharks414 View Post
I don't like having a defenseman on the bench as a personal preference. Forwards get more points.
Same here. One forward game can be 2-3 games worth of pts from a d-man. Load up the top 4, and "set it and forget it!"

magic school bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 11:50 PM
  #113
hockeyball
HFBoards Sponsor
 
hockeyball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 15,281
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rangerssharks414 View Post
I don't like having a defenseman on the bench as a personal preference. Forwards get more points.
Our leagues value blocks and hitting though, so defensemen have a lot more value. In fact, it's a big reason I am winning both league's im in right now.

hockeyball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-14-2011, 11:56 PM
  #114
KpopandHockey
HFBoards Sponsor
 
KpopandHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 8,045
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeyball View Post
Our leagues value blocks and hitting though, so defensemen have a lot more value. In fact, it's a big reason I am winning both league's im in right now.
I had to ignore those stats because I lacked the top end forwards so I would get beat in G A +/- and PPP so I use Dmen to bolster those stats.

I have never won blocks, but if I can assure G A +/- and PPP along with wins I can at least draw even every week. =/

KpopandHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-16-2011, 01:56 AM
  #115
TheJuxtaposer
#trainHavlat
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 18,259
vCash: 144
I'm just getting Zajac and Hall off the IR and I gotta drop a forward but don't know who to drop. I have too many forwards. Clutterbuck, O'Reilly, and Eriksson are my three weakest forwards, but I don't want to drop O'Reilly because he's been scoring well and wins tons of faceoffs and I don't have any other pure centers (Giroux, Malkin, Backes, and Benn, although I suppose I'll get Zajac's), I don't want to drop Clutterbuck because he single-handedly wins me the hits category every week, and Eriksson's too talented to drop. What would be ideal would be trading two of them for a better player, but I can't figure out who.

Help? It's my first year in a league (Non-HF league, and not a deep one: 12 teams, 7F-4D-3G-4bench-2IR).

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 11:19 AM
  #116
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
Visnovsky, Enstrom, or Streit? If you had to pick two.

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 11:47 AM
  #117
magic school bus
Registered Loser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,472
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TehJuxtaposer View Post
I'm just getting Zajac and Hall off the IR and I gotta drop a forward but don't know who to drop. I have too many forwards. Clutterbuck, O'Reilly, and Eriksson are my three weakest forwards, but I don't want to drop O'Reilly because he's been scoring well and wins tons of faceoffs and I don't have any other pure centers (Giroux, Malkin, Backes, and Benn, although I suppose I'll get Zajac's), I don't want to drop Clutterbuck because he single-handedly wins me the hits category every week, and Eriksson's too talented to drop. What would be ideal would be trading two of them for a better player, but I can't figure out who.

Help? It's my first year in a league (Non-HF league, and not a deep one: 12 teams, 7F-4D-3G-4bench-2IR).
Just cut O'Rielly. Nobody believes he keeps this pace up. Zajac will help you get some of the lost faceoffs. (But keep an eye on Henrique. He might have stolen TZ's shotgun seat with Parise and Kovy)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KirbyDots View Post
Visnovsky, Enstrom, or Streit? If you had to pick two.
To keep? Visnovsky and Streit. Enstrom will kill you in SOG, and he's too soft to help in hits.

magic school bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 11:56 AM
  #118
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
Straight points league, so SOG don't count. Right now I have Visnovsky and Streit, so I agree with your logic. Just concerned that the quacks suck this year, I'm currently stuck with Bobby Ryan. Hope he turns it around. I also have Parise, which was hard for awhile, but he's awesome now!

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 01:16 PM
  #119
magic school bus
Registered Loser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,472
vCash: 500
Yeah, I have Parise on both my teams. He looks 100% now, so fun times ahead for his owners.

magic school bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 08:48 PM
  #120
TheJuxtaposer
#trainHavlat
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 18,259
vCash: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by magic school bus View Post
Yeah, I have Parise on both my teams. He looks 100% now, so fun times ahead for his owners.
Me too, and my idea was to pick up Zajac right before he got off the IR, let him play a few games with Parise to gain value and then trade him off, but like you said Henrique seems to have stolen his spot...

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 08:56 PM
  #121
magic school bus
Registered Loser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,472
vCash: 500
Yeah.. that's a tough one. Zajac isn't that good without Parise. I'd say he's around a 50 pt guy by himself. I can't recommend TZ until he gets his spot back, but of course he's owned in a deep league though.

magic school bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-17-2011, 09:32 PM
  #122
Fistfullofbeer
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Fistfullofbeer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
Country: India
Posts: 5,145
vCash: 544
WTF Jumbo?

__________________
What?! Look, he thinks he's people!
Fistfullofbeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-18-2011, 12:00 AM
  #123
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
So, should I jump to replace Havlat? Options are Plekanec, Henrique, Jokinen, Alfredsson, Perron and JVR. Also, who would you guys take for straight points Enstrom or Visnovsky? Any advice helps, need to keep first!

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-18-2011, 01:26 AM
  #124
TheJuxtaposer
#trainHavlat
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 18,259
vCash: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by magic school bus View Post
Yeah.. that's a tough one. Zajac isn't that good without Parise. I'd say he's around a 50 pt guy by himself. I can't recommend TZ until he gets his spot back, but of course he's owned in a deep league though.
Yeah, but I'm hoping to fool some noob that doesn't know better because they haven't both been healthy at the same time in a while.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KirbyDots View Post
So, should I jump to replace Havlat? Options are Plekanec, Henrique, Jokinen, Alfredsson, Perron and JVR. Also, who would you guys take for straight points Enstrom or Visnovsky? Any advice helps, need to keep first!
I'd stay away from JvR as the Flyers have almost no centers at this point, I'm just not a huge fan of Alfredsson, and I'm wary of Henrique. Perron is a decent choice, but I'd go with Plekanec. Which Jokinen? I'd maybe do Olli but not Jussi.

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-18-2011, 02:08 AM
  #125
KirbyDots
Registered User
 
KirbyDots's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,832
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TehJuxtaposer View Post
Yeah, but I'm hoping to fool some noob that doesn't know better because they haven't both been healthy at the same time in a while.



I'd stay away from JvR as the Flyers have almost no centers at this point, I'm just not a huge fan of Alfredsson, and I'm wary of Henrique. Perron is a decent choice, but I'd go with Plekanec. Which Jokinen? I'd maybe do Olli but not Jussi.
Yeah I recently dropped JvR for the same reason. I already have two devils, Parise and Elias, so Henrique is kinda overkill. Olli is the Jokinen I was thinking as he's hot at the moment, not a huge fan though. I'm thinking Plekanec as well. Who would you take this season Visnovsky or Enstrom?

KirbyDots is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:15 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.