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I'm all for offersheeting Doughty, but the numbers you put up would still have us giving 4 1sts as compensation. It is determined by the total contract dollars divided by the lesser between the contract years or 5.

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LA would gladly match and send Tambo a thank you note for the favor.

An offersheet that doesnt get LA 4 1st would instantly be matched.. 8Mx 5yrs might work.

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Mods, change this thread title to Unofficial Rumor and Proposal Thread since the other one is locked.

I see where you are going with this, but the debate has been 50/50, almost 60/40 against signing him to an OS. I think you'll see Tambo see if he can't offload players first to LA for DD, and if that fails then go for DD. But I have a feeling he has other arrangements to get us a #1 Dman since hearing from Matheson that without Whitney, the Oilers might be looking for another player who has the same caliber as him.

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Mods, change this thread title to Unofficial Rumor and Proposal Thread since the other one is locked.

I see where you are going with this, but the debate has been 50/50, almost 60/40 against signing him to an OS. I think you'll see Tambo see if he can't offload players first to LA for DD, and if that fails then go for DD. But I have a feeling he has other arrangements to get us a #1 Dman since hearing from Matheson that without Whitney, the Oilers might be looking for another player who has the same caliber as him.
Good idea, we do need one of those.

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I'd be shocked if Meehan hasn't been talking about offer sheets for quite some time. And as a player I'd like to know what my options are and what other teams think I'm worth.

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I'm all for offersheeting Doughty, but the numbers you put up would still have us giving 4 1sts as compensation. It is determined by the total contract dollars divided by the lesser between the contract years or 5.
This is going right over my head right now, is there a simple example someone would be willing to give that could clear it up? It would be much appreciated.

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You guys forgot about this thread?

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You guys forgot about this thread?
Whoops totally did. I will merge. Thx for the heads up

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This is going right over my head right now, is there a simple example someone would be willing to give that could clear it up? It would be much appreciated.
Sure. If we offered this contract for 7.2/per year for 7 years that is a total of 50.4M over the contract. Now since the contract years is higher than 5, the compensation would be calculated as 50.4M/5years = 10.08M >7.8 = 4 1sts. So the actual cap hit per year would be 7.2 but the compensation would be based on if it was 10.08.

The most we could offer and still be under 4 1sts would be 7.8M*5y.

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I'm pretty sure the Offer Sheet period is over. Teams had a window back in July.

Now let's get back to actual rumours, shall we?

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7.8mil for 5 yrs would be worth it as well but that puts DD at 26 making him a RFA I believe. And by the sounds of things he wants to be a UFA at the end of his next contract, not a RFA...

But still on board with 7.8mil/per for 5 years.

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I'm pretty sure the Offer Sheet period is over. Teams had a window back in July.

Now let's get back to actual rumours, shall we?
There is no period for offer sheets. They can happen whenever.

McKenzie even tweeted this morning that there hasn't been any movement on the LAK and Doughty front and says that his agent will now probably try to gather interest in an offer sheet.

You might be thinking of a buyout period as there is only a couple windows during the summer when buyouts can happen.

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7.8mil for 5 yrs would be worth it as well but that puts DD at 26 making him a RFA I believe. And by the sounds of things he wants to be a UFA at the end of his next contract, not a RFA...

But still on board with 7.8mil/per for 5 years.
Nope he'd be UFA after any contract 4 year or longer, assuming the age doesn't change in the next CBA.

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There is no period for offer sheets. They can happen whenever.

McKenzie even tweeted this morning that there hasn't been any movement on the LAK and Doughty front and says that his agent will now probably try to gather interest in an offer sheet.

You might be thinking of a buyout period as there is only a couple windows during the summer when buyouts can happen.
Interesting. That tells you that he is indeed willing to leave LA. Which team(s) would have the balls to pull it off? Regardless of the situation Tambellini has to at least give a call to Meehan to see what they're looking for and if Drew would have any interest in coming here.

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Interesting. That tells you that he is indeed willing to leave LA. Which team(s) would have the balls to pull it off? Regardless of the situation Tambellini has to at least give a call to Meehan to see what they're looking for and if Drew would have any interest in coming here.
Well, one of our young guys must be buddies with Doughty from the World Juniors, I am sure. Plus just like Belanger, Eager, Hordichuk and others we signed, Doughty might be hooked onto the youth movement and try to make our team even better.

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Im onboard with that after seeing our Defense last night... Gilbert is NOT A TOP 4 GUY.
I disagree - Gilbert is a good 2nd pairing guy, but doesn't belong on the 1st pairing.

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Well, one of our young guys must be buddies with Doughty from the World Juniors, I am sure. Plus just like Belanger, Eager, Hordichuk and others we signed, Doughty might be hooked onto the youth movement and try to make our team even better.
Oddly enough I remember hearing that Hall and Doughty were buddies off ice (you sure as hell wouldn't know it on the ice ) so Hall should be talking to him about coming here.

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With the talk about offer sheets - which teams actually have the cap space and the contract space to put in an offer sheet?

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Oddly enough I remember hearing that Hall and Doughty were buddies off ice (you sure as hell wouldn't know it on the ice ) so Hall should be talking to him about coming here.
Though, I bet Tambo will probably try to see if Lombardi would take bodies from us but knowing how Lombardi like's to have hissy fits about our players, Tambo might try an OS.

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Horcoff and an "injured" Gilbert Brule for Doughty's rights?

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With the talk about offer sheets - which teams actually have the cap space and the contract space to put in an offer sheet?
According to Capgeek, as of right now, the following teams have over seven million in cap space.

Edmonton, L.A., Minnesota, St. Louis, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Phoenix, Florida, Nashville, Dallas, New York Islanders, Carolina, and Colorado.

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4 first round picks are a big price to pay.
Toronto could have had Seguin + but they chose Kessel
Would Burke do it again? Probably not
If we were already a playoff team and had cap space it would be a different story but right now we are still rebuilding and our draft picks will likely be in the top 10-15 for a couple of years

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According to Capgeek, as of right now, the following teams have over seven million in cap space.

Edmonton, L.A., Minnesota, St. Louis, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Phoenix, Florida, Nashville, Dallas, New York Islanders, Carolina, and Colorado.
From that list, I think you can eliminate Phoenix, Florida, Nashville and Dallas.

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From that list, I think you can eliminate Phoenix, Florida, Nashville and Dallas.
Bubble teams in regards to willingess to spend right now may be NYI and Carolina. The only realistic options would be Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Ottawa. I doubt St. Louis or Colorado would bother paying that price. Both have pretty good defence as it is.

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4 first round picks are a big price to pay.
Toronto could have had Seguin + but they chose Kessel
Would Burke do it again? Probably not
If we were already a playoff team and had cap space it would be a different story but right now we are still rebuilding and our draft picks will likely be in the top 10-15 for a couple of years

So far the trade has worked for Toronto, since Seguin and Hamilton have yet to hit Kessel's level....which is a 25 year old 30-40g scorer. Now, it is probable that Boston will win the deal pretty cleanly....but again...hasn't happened yet.

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