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09-27-2011, 12:20 PM
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practice? we talking about practice? we not talking about the game, we talking about practice?

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I could care less if he is lazy. Kovalev was lazy and I would take a prime Alex Kovalev on my team any day.

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09-27-2011, 12:24 PM
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Hockey is a results driven business, and if Kessel scores enough goals to help the team win games, I don't give a **** if he looks lazy.

Plenty of 22 year olds were criticized for their play at a young age, but were able to become superstars. Lets not judge the 2011-2012 Kessel before the season has begun.

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09-27-2011, 12:40 PM
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Hopefully he gets a hat trick tonight against the sens

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Hockey is a results driven business, and if Kessel scores enough goals to help the team win games, I don't give a **** if he looks lazy.

Plenty of 22 year olds were criticized for their play at a young age, but were able to become superstars. Lets not judge the 2011-2012 Kessel before the season has begun.
The greatest attribute Kessel has is that he never ages .

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Hopefully he gets a hat trick tonight against the sens
Yea, he is a Sens killer. He has proven to be so in his time with the Leafs so far.

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I could care less if he is lazy. Kovalev was lazy and I would take a prime Alex Kovalev on my team any day.
I wouldn't want that lazy floater anywhere near the Maple Leaf.

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09-27-2011, 12:50 PM
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Hockey is a categorically different sport than soccer.

Wingers in hockey are very much expected to make a defensive commitment in the defending end, and on the backcheck.

Strikers and wingers in football are pinned to the halfway line when the opponent is attacking, always.
so you do think Kessel's lazy on the backcheck? You and Cox wouldn't be the first (and second) to think so

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09-27-2011, 01:10 PM
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Pretty timely to coincide with this:

http://theleafsnation.com/2011/9/26/philkesselmyths

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09-27-2011, 01:23 PM
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Pretty timely to coincide with this:

http://theleafsnation.com/2011/9/26/philkesselmyths


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Point #1: 98 goals is “not bad.”

Courtesy of Hockey-Reference, here are the players within 10 goals of Kessel’s contributions over the last three seasons:

Rick Nash: 105 goals
Dany Heatley: 104 goals
Alexander Semin: 102 goals
Eric Staal: 102 goals
Daniel Sedin: 101 goals
Bobby Ryan: 100 goals
Thomas Vanek: 100 goals
Loui Eriksson: 92 goals
Ryan Kesler: 92 goals
Jonathan Toews: 91 goals
Martin St. Louis: 90 goals
Alex Burrows: 89 goals
Marian Hossa: 89 goals
What does Brophy think about Kessel’s peers? He picked Heatley to win the ‘Rocket’ Richard Trophy in 2010-11, identified Staal as one of the best players in the game, considered Daniel Sedin the front-runner for the Hart Trophy at the three-quarter mark of the year, said that Vanek has delectable talent, could lead the league in goal-scoring, and was “one of the best players in the world,” recognizes St. Louis as having a Hall of Fame-level career and called Hossa “a great player.”

If this seems like belabouring the point, keep in mind that the point is 98 goals over the last three seasons – the 16th best mark in the NHL – is significantly better than “not bad.”

Point #2: “[T]he majority of [Kessel’s] shots hit the opposing goalie in the crest.

Alexander Ovechkin has more goals over the past three seasons than anybody else – he’s scored 138, while nobody else has surpassed the 120-goal plateau. His shooting percentage over that span is 10.9%. Phil Kessel’s shooting percentage? 11.5%.

Also, it’s worth noting that the vast majority of everybody’s shots hit the goaltender. David Jones, the NHL’s cumulative shooting percentage leader over the last three seasons (minimum 20 goals scored) converts at an 18.8% clip. There’s no reason to believe that Kessel hits the opposing goalie in the crest any more than a typical NHL player, and even if he does there’s no reason to believe that hitting the goalie in the crest is worse than hitting him in the pad, or the blocker, or anywhere else for that matter.

Kessel’s shooting percentage isn’t absurdly high. But as Alexander Ovechkin demonstrates, it’s possible to be the league’s most prolific goal-scorer with a worse one.

Point #3: “[I]t's hard to imagine [Kessel] being a player that will carry a team deep into the playoffs.”

Phil Kessel has played for two playoff teams. In 2007-08, fresh off a 37-point season, Kessel scored four points in four games and led the Boston Bruins with three goals. In 2008-09, Kessel again outdid his regular season performance, again leading the Bruins’ in goals and recording 11 points in 11 games. Nothing in his career indicates an inability to play when the post-season starts.

Of course, that isn’t Brophy’s point. Brophy’s point is that Kessel can’t “carry” a team on a lengthy post-season run. The nice thing about this point is that it’s impossible to refute: Kessel hasn’t carried a team on a lengthy playoff run, so despite strong performances in the playoffs and internationally, one can’t prove anything other than that Kessel scores in the playoffs. The logical conclusion to make, of course, is that Kessel’s a good playoff player, but then that’s a conclusion pretty much anybody can come to.

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09-27-2011, 01:32 PM
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For some reason even though Kessel skates hard in games he is constantly being criticized for his work ethic and dedication to fitness off of it. "His face is fat!"
Kessel skates hard when he has the puck. Any other time he is coasting or putting in a half-assed effort IMO.

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09-27-2011, 02:14 PM
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To be far to Kessel every player from time to time has a scoreless steak where he just can't seem to find the back of the net.


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09-27-2011, 02:19 PM
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for the too-lazy-to-clickers:
such a good article and should shut up a lot of dumb people.

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09-27-2011, 02:20 PM
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To be far to Kessel every player has a scoreless sreak from time to time.
goalscorers are always like that

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Not just practice, preseason practice.

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09-27-2011, 02:30 PM
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Best post ever. Practice!

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09-27-2011, 02:38 PM
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Kessel lazy?????? First time I ever heard that. Come on Cox give us something better than that!!

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09-27-2011, 02:40 PM
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such a good article and should shut up a lot of dumb people.
the only thing that will shut a lot of people up, is kessel stepping his game up.

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Kessel got off the ice before anyone else in a preseason practice!? WHY DID HE DO THAT. This game is do or die for us.. and he's coasting already, now we're getting Yakupov..

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09-27-2011, 03:14 PM
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Kessel got off the ice before anyone else in a preseason practice!? WHY DID HE DO THAT. This game is do or die for us.. and he's coasting already, now we're getting Yakupov..
Probably wanted to hit the weight room before it got crowded.

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Cox has become a ******. This is merely publicity for him feeding off of Kessels back as usual. Write something that is more relevant...

And yes Kessel is lazy...we already know that. Why try to magnify it when it least matters the most, if it was game 7 of the Stanley cup playoffs then it's another matter.

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09-27-2011, 03:25 PM
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http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...to-leaf-season

i dunno. i always thought Kessel's thing is to seem dispassionate/uncaring, but then boom! he scores 2 goals against your team just like that.

i'm not pre-season trolling here. if the admin. sees this article as unworthy to post then delete away.

thanks.
You say you don't mean to troll, but you seem to make the same type of threads that a lot would find "trollie".

It's preseason, and Kessel should be the last person to be critized.

Quick question, have you came across any other first line talent being begged on his poor performance recently?

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09-27-2011, 03:29 PM
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I think it has to be Tyler Bozak's fault.

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I think it has to be Tyler Bozak's fault.
By the time the regular season rolls around, Kessel will be due to score about 6 goals in 10 games. All by himself.

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