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02-06-2012, 05:23 AM
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final was 4-2 Worcester scored a empty net goal at end,Moon was tossed for fighting after first altercation and Murray for 3rd fight,and fighting after altercation.Overall ref let this game get out of hand but its the loudest Mile One's been all season

I was at Friday's game, and listened to the Caps lose to the Charlestown Chiefs on Saturday. I thought the boys did well standing up to a bunch of goons. AFAIAC they can't be thought of as a soft team any more

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The sports editor of the local paper agrees.

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Assuming the Colts do not pull the upset of the century to win the Memorial Cup, I think he will still have something to prove in the OHL. He's still definitely challenged against the better teams in the OHL. Not that he isn't one of the better players on the ice, but he's not head and shoulders above them.



Next season he will either have to play with the Jets or in the OHL. He can only play in the AHL once his OHL team is eliminated from competition.

My guess is that with some strength and conditioning this summer Mark will stick with the Jets. Having said that I think the best case scenario would be for him to stay with the Jets through camp, preseason and then play him sparingly for his 10 games through Christmas before sending him to the WJC. After that, back to junior, hopefully a long run there and then over to the AHL for a nice playoff run with the Ice Caps. Start the 2014 season with the Jets primed and ready to be successful - and his full ELC ahead of him.

I call it the Alex Pietrangelo formula (as opposed to the Bogosian formula).
That's not a bad formula. Eberle and Hodgson also played an extra year or two in junior before sticking in the NHL. Hodgson even played a season in the AHL as well.

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Assuming the Colts do not pull the upset of the century to win the Memorial Cup, I think he will still have something to prove in the OHL. He's still definitely challenged against the better teams in the OHL. Not that he isn't one of the better players on the ice, but he's not head and shoulders above them.



Next season he will either have to play with the Jets or in the OHL. He can only play in the AHL once his OHL team is eliminated from competition.

My guess is that with some strength and conditioning this summer Mark will stick with the Jets. Having said that I think the best case scenario would be for him to stay with the Jets through camp, preseason and then play him sparingly for his 10 games through Christmas before sending him to the WJC. After that, back to junior, hopefully a long run there and then over to the AHL for a nice playoff run with the Ice Caps. Start the 2014 season with the Jets primed and ready to be successful - and his full ELC ahead of him.

I call it the Alex Pietrangelo formula (as opposed to the Bogosian formula).
I wouldn't be opposed to that formula myself, I see his path to tbe NHL being similar to Eberle's. 2 years in junior after being drafted to add size and improve his skating.

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That's not a bad formula. Eberle and Hodgson also played an extra year or two in junior before sticking in the NHL. Hodgson even played a season in the AHL as well.
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I wouldn't be opposed to that formula myself, I see his path to tbe NHL being similar to Eberle's. 2 years in junior after being drafted to add size and improve his skating.
yea I have no problem with this formula and think Krazy Kanuck has made some good points as well. it seems like when Eberle and Hodgson finally hit the bigs they hit the ground running and i see nothing wrong with that?

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Assuming the Colts do not pull the upset of the century to win the Memorial Cup, I think he will still have something to prove in the OHL. He's still definitely challenged against the better teams in the OHL. Not that he isn't one of the better players on the ice, but he's not head and shoulders above them.



Next season he will either have to play with the Jets or in the OHL. He can only play in the AHL once his OHL team is eliminated from competition.

My guess is that with some strength and conditioning this summer Mark will stick with the Jets. Having said that I think the best case scenario would be for him to stay with the Jets through camp, preseason and then play him sparingly for his 10 games through Christmas before sending him to the WJC. After that, back to junior, hopefully a long run there and then over to the AHL for a nice playoff run with the Ice Caps. Start the 2014 season with the Jets primed and ready to be successful - and his full ELC ahead of him.

I call it the Alex Pietrangelo formula (as opposed to the Bogosian formula).
I wouldn't be opposed to that formula myself, I see his path to tbe NHL being similar to Eberle's. 2 years in junior after being drafted to add size and improve his skating.

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Absolute rule. No way he can go to St.J next year for the full season.

He can come up to the AHL after his junior season ends this year though, so that might get him some time this year if his junior team gets eliminated fast.
It is an absolute rule RIGHT NOW.

But the contract negotiations are set to be done this summer with the NHL and NHLPA and that rule has been reported as one of the main talking points and something that could be realistically lifted.

So there actually is a fair sized chance Scheifele could indeed play in the AHL next year, but again that would require a change in the current agreement. If that does not happen Schiefele is NHL or OHL.

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It is an absolute rule RIGHT NOW.

But the contract negotiations are set to be done this summer with the NHL and NHLPA and that rule has been reported as one of the main talking points and something that could be realistically lifted.

So there actually is a fair sized chance Scheifele could indeed play in the AHL next year, but again that would require a change in the current agreement. If that does not happen Schiefele is NHL or OHL.
Nope. This agreement is not NHL-NHLPA. This is an CHL-NHL agreement, not something that will come up in the CBA. This is a separate agreement, I would not count on it changing AT ALL this summer. I wish it would, but don't count on it.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Providence Bruins 0 St. John's IceCaps 2
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Game Summary
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2. STJ Postma, (10) (Holzapfel, O'Dell), 11:32
3. STJ Ramsey, (3) (Negrin, Weller), 6:40


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IceCapsAHL St. John's IceCaps
Goal! Postma jumps up into the rush, fans on his initial attempt, and beats Khudobin on his second shot to give the IceCaps a 1-0 lead!
Postma's goal is his 10th of the season, and he has now scored in three straight games.
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2-0 IceCaps! Travis Ramsey with a seeing-eye shot from the right point that beats Khudobin on the glove side to extend the lead to 2.

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St. John's outshoot the Bruins 30-29, go 0/1 on the PP, 4/4 on the PK and take 8 PIM's.



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Jets CHL Prospects Report for Tuesday, February 7

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Guelph Storm 3 Kitchener Rangers 6 (FINAL)

Cody Sol, KIT; G-0, A-2, Plus/Minus +4, PIM-0


Oshawa Generals 5 Peterborough Petes 2 (6:05 CST)

Julian Melchiori, OSH; G-0, A-2, Plus/Minus +2, PIM-0






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Swift Current Broncos (Adam Lowry) (20-29-2-3) @ Saskatoon Blades (32-20-0-1)
Moose Jaw Warriors (Kendall McFaull) (32-15-5-1) @ Lethbridge Hurricanes (21-33-0-1)
Tri-City Americans (Zach Yuen) (37-12-1-1) @ Kamloops Blazers (37-12-1-3)

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02-07-2012, 05:30 PM
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yea I have no problem with this formula and think Krazy Kanuck has made some good points as well. it seems like when Eberle and Hodgson finally hit the bigs they hit the ground running and i see nothing wrong with that?
Following this development model, here are a couple of other examples that I think might be closer to Scheifele's style, and we can all hope his upside...

Ryan Getzlaf... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=62467

Corey Perry... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=59656

Both were lanky guys when drafted, and had to work on their strength and skating. Both spent two years of junior after being drafted in the first round, some AHL playoff action, and then into the NHL.

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Following this development model, here are a couple of other examples that I think might be closer to Scheifele's style, and we can all hope his upside...

Ryan Getzlaf... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=62467

Corey Perry... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=59656

Both were lanky guys when drafted, and had to work on their strength and skating. Both spent two years of junior after being drafted in the first round, some AHL playoff action, and then into the NHL.
Pffft. Scrubs.







That would be fantastic if he's able to follow in their footsteps. Got a chance to watch the Barrie vs Mississauga game in person on Friday. Scheif looked decent, but not game changing. His skating appears to be improved from earlier this year though.

He seems to be such a committed person, that I can easily see him working overtime to ensure that his weaknesses get corrected. Dude is tall - if he fills out, he could be a monster in the NHL. He's certainly got the hockey smarts.

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Following this development model, here are a couple of other examples that I think might be closer to Scheifele's style, and we can all hope his upside...

Ryan Getzlaf... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=62467

Corey Perry... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=59656

Both were lanky guys when drafted, and had to work on their strength and skating. Both spent two years of junior after being drafted in the first round, some AHL playoff action, and then into the NHL.
I like the Perry comparison. I think generally speaking, it's the way to go especially given the way contracts work these days. You want to have a guy wrapped up through as many of his most productive years as possible. Although everybody likes the story of the teenager coming in and making an impact right away, the reality is that since Mario Lemieux, only 5 of the 25 Calder Trophy Winners were teenagers...most guys need the extra couple years of seasoning.

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I like the Perry comparison. I think generally speaking, it's the way to go especially given the way contracts work these days. You want to have a guy wrapped up through as many of his most productive years as possible. Although everybody likes the story of the teenager coming in and making an impact right away, the reality is that since Mario Lemieux, only 5 of the 25 Calder Trophy Winners were teenagers...most guys need the extra couple years of seasoning.
I'm willing to wait even a few years for Scheifele to develop in the OHL/AHL, and I figure the Jets management is keen to play a "long game" approach when it comes to their prospects. The contract discussion is interesting, but I think it's a secondary consideration for the organization in Scheifele's case. If Scheifele's ready next year, then they aren't going to keep him with Barrie for the sake of extending his RFA years.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Providence Bruins 1 St. John's IceCaps 2 (OT)
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Game Summary
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http://stjohnsicecaps.com/article/ic...rtime-victory/


Scoring
1. STJ Weller, (8) (Maxwell, DeSantis), 5:55 (PP)
3. PRO Hennessy, (15) (Cunningham), 8:45
OT. STJ DeSantis , (8) (King) 2:26

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Goal! Shawn Weller redirects an already deflected Ben Maxwell shot on the PP to put the #IceCaps up 1-0 with 14:05 left in the first!
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IceCaps win it in OT!! Jason DeSantis blasts a slap shot past Hutchinson to give the IceCaps a 2-1 victory!

Starting Goaltender
Edward Pasquale


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Providence outshoots St. John's 37-30. The IceCaps go 2/4 on the PP, 5/5 on the PK and take 6 minor penalties.

The IceCaps record now improves to 30-12-5-1, good for 66 points after 48 games. That puts them 10 pts ahead of Manchester to lead the Atlantic Division (2 games in hand), 3 points ahead of the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins to lead the Eastern Conference (same number games) and 1 point more than the Oklahoma City Barons to lead the AHL. OKC has played one less game than the IceCaps.



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Jets CHL Prospects Report for Wednesday, February 8

Jets CHL Prospects Report for Wednesday, February 8


Swift Current Broncos 3 Saskatoon Blades 4 (OT) (FINAL)
http://www.whl.ca/schedule/show/game/59977

Adam Lowry, SC; injured, could be out for the season


Moose Jaw Warriors 5 Lethbridge Hurricanes 3 (FINAL)

Kendall McFaull, MJ; G-0, A-0, Plus/Minus 0, PIM-0


Tri-City Americans 1 Kamloops Blazers 5 (FINAL)

Zach Yuen, TC; G-0, A-1, Plus/Minus +1, PIM-0






Tomorrow's Game
Sarnia Sting (25-19-1-5) @ Barrie Colts (Mark Scheifele & Ivan Telegin) (28-19-2-1)

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Good four points by a very depleted team.

Gagnon... in WPG
Gregoire... bad shoulder
Albert...sounds like a concussion
Jaffray... day to day, sat out both games
Cormier...same thing
Rosa.... hasn't skated since December
Meech....bad knee

Nice to see Forney get a shot. He didn't look out of place on Tuesday when I was at the game.

Negrin played limited time, he looked allright, made one horrific turnover that Pasquale managed to save.

Pasquale played really well in both games and also on last Friday against the Charlestown Chiefs.

I have been thinking and I now believe that the three best prospects for the "Peg are Postma, Pasquale and Klingberg in that order.

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Not sure if Jets fan realize this but Paul Postma is an absolute stud. I have been to over 10 IceCaps games this year and he is usually the best player on the ice. Sometimes Spence will dominate a game on his own, but Postma will be a big time player for years to come.

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Excellent to hear that Postma is doing well. It might make Chevy's decision to trade a UFA like Oduya (if we are sellers) a little easier if he thinks Postma could be ready for the NHL soon.

How is Redmond doing?

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Not sure if Jets fan realize this but Paul Postma is an absolute stud. I have been to over 10 IceCaps games this year and he is usually the best player on the ice. Sometimes Spence will dominate a game on his own, but Postma will be a big time player for years to come.
Thanks for the info, that's good to hear. His numbers sure are good.

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How is Redmond doing?
He is doing well but is overshadowed by Postma and Kulda, and in my opinion Festerling and DeSantis, who is playing great for a guy who didn't dress much early on.

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He is doing well but is overshadowed by Postma and Kulda, and in my opinion Festerling and DeSantis, who is playing great for a guy who didn't dress much early on.
I'm happy to hear that Kulda has been good as well. I was one of the guys who wanted him to stay in Winnipeg, and one of the guys who thought putting him on waivers was a dumb move. I think he has a chance to be a solid bottom pairing guy with physicality at some point.

I am surprised to hear you mention Redmond maybe being overshadowed by Festerling and DeSantis. I guess I wrongly assumed that Redmond was the "next guy" in St. Johns after he was in the All-Star game.

Thanks for your response.

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I suppose its a case of embarrasment of riches. All have been playing well, and have kept the team competitive with all the forwards ouit.

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Kulda takes too many pims,and sometimes is a LIABILITY IN HIS OWN END.Postma great offensive defenseman but he too makes mistakes in his own end.Traves Ramsey and Brett Festerling in my eyes are the best and most consistant d men on team,Ramsey does all the simple things right and if you dont notice him hes doing his job

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I agree about Ramsey, he is very solid.

I had to laugh when I read an interview he did with the local paper. He is from Long Beach, CA, and went to college in Maine. At the time he thought that was as far from home as he would ever be in his hockey career. Little did he know!!

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