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09-24-2011, 01:48 PM
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The North American player who has...

...contributed the most to the KHL, in your opinion, would be?

It seems Kevin Dallman has played in the league pretty well since it started up.

He's been a team captain at least some of those years.

Would he be the North American that has contributed the most to the KHL?


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I'd say Kevin Dallman as well

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Dallman set the record in goals by a d-man, plus whoever was first, I don't remember - Zorik or whatever the name was

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defenseman- Dallman
goalie- Garnett
forward- Ellison (maybe cause I'm from Latvia and his first club was Dinamo Riga but honestly last year was great for him stats-wise and before that his MVD was 2nd in the league... he's been constantly good at every club he's been with and it's his 4th year in KHL that's rare for a North American... to stay here for 4 years or more)

the best: Dallman, definitely

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I'm surprised no one is mentioning former KHL players Darcy Verot and Chris Simon

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forwards - Bochenski, Vesce, Linglet, Ellison, Simon
dmans - Quint, Dallman, Giroux
golies - Emery and Garnett

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forwards - Bochenski, Vesce, Linglet, Ellison, Simon
dmans - Quint, Dallman, Giroux
golies - Emery and Garnett

I remember Deron Quint was drafted very high (30th overall in 1994) by the first edition of the Winnipeg Jets.

He was drafted so high because of his skill with the puck.

Is he a good offensive defenseman in the KHL?


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Is he a good offensive defenseman in the KHL?
98 games - 49 points

but his defensive skill isn't good enough

and he scored 21 goals last season, even more than Guskov

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98 games - 49 points

but his defensive skill isn't good enough

and he scored 21 goals last season, even more than Guskov

I believe what you describe above is why his career in the NHL wasn't very successful.

Are plus/minus statistics kept in the KHL?

If they are, that's probably where Deron Quint's weakness can be illustrated.

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Are plus/minus statistics kept in the KHL?

If they are, that's probably where Deron Quint's weakness can be illustrated.
-14

Giroux has got +52 for 3 seasons btw
and Dallman only +7

it's all about regular season

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-14

Giroux has got +52 for 3 seasons btw
and Dallman only +7

it's all about regular season
-14 There you go.

Giroux's +52 is amazing.

When the Edmonton Oilers were tearing up the NHL in the 80s; Gretzky at one time was +62, but little known Oilers defenseman Charlie Huddy was +66!

Looking at some KHL clips on YouTube(very nice to watch, by the way), I noticed Brennan and Yablonski of Vityaz apparently starting rough stuff.

Are there any Russian players who fight a lot and are on a team pretty well only for their ability to play physically(some might even say dirty)?


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speaking of Simon....... Where is he?

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speaking of Simon....... Where is he?
free agent

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Def Kevin Dallman and Ellison. Very well liked and respected. Always make a difference on their teams.

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speaking of Simon....... Where is he?
apparenetly CSKA negotiated with him prior to Verot, but he wanted too much money, which is really strange, 'cause he couldn't have gotten paid all that much in Vityaz'. He probably wants to retire, but would play for a high pay check.

Also, Verot, has said to the major Russian sports paper, that Vityaz' bosses told him and other Canadians to fight and attack other team's players.

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apparenetly CSKA negotiated with him prior to Verot, but he wanted too much money, which is really strange, 'cause he couldn't have gotten paid all that much in Vityaz'. He probably wants to retire, but would play for a high pay check.

Also, Verot, has said to the major Russian sports paper, that Vityaz' bosses told him and other Canadians to fight and attack other team's players.
To borrow imagery from American Western movies, Canadian players were encouraged to wear the black cowboy hat of the villian,while Russian and other European players got to be the "good guys".

I'm surprised to learn team management would specifically ask that of its players.


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