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10-05-2011, 02:25 PM
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Eller will be ready before White.

lol... Betty White.

Or make it spanish.

Betts y White.
Thanks, I couldn't remember the severity of his injury. So Weber is playing up front to start the season.

Do we go with;

Kostitsyn - Desharnais - Weber
Moen - Betts - Darche

or

Kostitsyn - Desharnais - Darche
Moen - Betts - Weber

or

Moen - Desharnais - Kostitsyn
Weber - Betts - Darche

??

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10-05-2011, 02:26 PM
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Honestly it seemed like every important faceoff in the D zone or on the pk he couldnt win them. His faceoff ability is very overated, probably the biggest reason there was no need for him anymore.
Cognitive bias.

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10-05-2011, 02:30 PM
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Cognitive bias.
I have been saying this for a week now on the flyers board, he does not have very much to offer at this point. You will become frusterated everytime he hits the ice on the pk, especially because you guys are used to speed, and puck pusuit while killing penalties which is what makes your unit so good, he is the exact opposite of that.

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53.8% at home, 46.8% on the road. 50.3% overall. Anyone know where you can get defensive-zone vs offensive-zone stats?
Why ask? I don't expect to see much of him on the power play or facing off deep in the offensive zone at even strength. Since the team taking a penalty has to start from a faceoff circle near the goaltender he'll be taking many more defensive zone than offensive zone faceoffs if he's serving as a penalty killer. Other than on PK duty he won't get a lot of ice time.

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10-05-2011, 02:34 PM
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Is this guy good?
He's a big body who has some size, blocks shots, 50%+ on faceoffs, doesn't take stupid penalties (8 PIMs last year), and played over 3 1/2 minutes on the PK per game last year.

The guy is solid defensively, better than our centres at faceoffs (not saying much), and dependable.

He's not going to score 20 goals. He's not going to make severely bone crushing hits. He's not going to post 30-points. He is going to play smart hockey, kill penalties, and not take dumb penalties.

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He's a big body who has some size, blocks shots, 50%+ on faceoffs, doesn't take stupid penalties (8 PIMs last year), and played over 3 1/2 minutes on the PK per game last year.

The guy is solid defensively, better than our centres at faceoffs (not saying much), and dependable.

He's not going to score 20 goals. He's not going to make severely bone crushing hits. He's not going to post 30-points. He is going to play smart hockey, kill penalties, and not take dumb penalties.
Humm ! One and the same ?

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10-05-2011, 02:36 PM
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Humm ! One and the same ?
lol opps.. I worked at 12-hour night shift and have only had 2 hours of sleep! sue me.

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Thanks, I couldn't remember the severity of his injury. So Weber is playing up front to start the season.

Do we go with;

Kostitsyn - Desharnais - Weber
Moen - Betts - Darche

or

Kostitsyn - Desharnais - Darche
Moen - Betts - Weber


or

Moen - Desharnais - Kostitsyn
Weber - Betts - Darche

??
Knowing Martin a bit, he will go with this, especially with Moen having no training camp (and I don't want to see Moen on a third line anymore...). Weber is not a 4th liner, even less a third liner.

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10-05-2011, 02:38 PM
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Knowing Martin a bit, he will go with this, especially with Moen having no training camp (and I don't want to see Moen on a third line anymore...). Weber is not a 4th liner, even less a third liner.
the AK-Eller-Moen line from end of last season was solid.

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10-05-2011, 02:42 PM
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Betts is slow as heck though, which hasn't been a good fit here ion the past...

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10-05-2011, 02:46 PM
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eventually??

Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Cammalleri
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Desharnais - Eller - Cole
Moen - Betts - White

exarche

Spacek - Markov
Subban - Gill
Gorges - Campoli

ex: Weber and Yemelin/Diaz

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10-05-2011, 02:47 PM
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Betts is slow as heck though, which hasn't been a good fit here ion the past...
...and if he would be really "gritty" like some here described, me think he would have had more than 8 pim...

Man... I'm reading and posting in a 9+ pages thread about a 13th forward that could be waived during the course of the year if anyone in Hamilton turns out to be ready...

Let's start playing, please!

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10-05-2011, 02:50 PM
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Betts is slow as heck though, which hasn't been a good fit here ion the past...
I said it earlier...Blair Betts is alot like...Andreas Engqvist, except he's left handed and has more NHL experience.

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10-05-2011, 02:56 PM
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Well, personally I like the NHL experience that he brings over Engqvist. I consider us contenders this year so he will help a lot more imo.

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10-05-2011, 03:00 PM
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CanadiensMTL Montreal Canadiens
Blair Betts portera le numéro 15. / Blair Betts will wear No. 15 with the Habs.

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10-05-2011, 03:01 PM
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eventually??

Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Cammalleri
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Desharnais - Eller - Cole
Moen - Betts - White

exarche

Spacek - Markov
Subban - Gill
Gorges - Campoli

ex: Weber and Yemelin/Diaz
Moen over Darche? No way.

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10-05-2011, 03:02 PM
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Blair Betts portera le numéro 15. / Blair Betts will wear No. 15 with the Habs.
Finally, we solve the Desharnais mistery! 15 wasn't available because they knew they would claim Betts!

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Blair Betts portera le numéro 15. / Blair Betts will wear No. 15 with the Habs.
Good ol' #15. The revolving door of the Habs' jerseys numbers.

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The real potential benefit from this is the possible reduction of PK icetime for Plekanec. Less work means less chances of him burning out.
Good point, Pleks needs to be rested and if a guy like Betts can do the job on the first PK unit, we are in business!

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10-05-2011, 03:15 PM
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Good ol' #15. The revolving door of the Habs' jerseys numbers.
It'll always be Zubrus to me.

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It'll always be Zubrus to me.
...and Rejean Houle to me...

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Perry Pearn coached Blair Betts during their days with the NY Rangers. I wonder how much input he had in this waiver pickup.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2011/...-to-canadiens/

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Betts is slow as heck though, which hasn't been a good fit here ion the past...
cant be any slower then big Hal, but give him a chance I think its a good pick up 4th line center congrats.

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I love the pickup, glab PG listened.

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This guy really seems to be a perfect fit. He's played for Pearn, who's spent half his career with JM, so the coaches know the player intimately. He's popular with fans and teammates, no indication he'll be anything but an asset in the room, which seems to be a core issue in the Habs identity right now. He's 6'3 and 210" but he only took 8 mins in penalties, which directly addresses two areas the Habs have unquestionably needed to improve on. He's a C who expects to play on the 4th line and eat up PK minutes, again fitting exactly the Habs most obvious roster weakness.

Thanks Philly. I really think Betts going on waivers saved PG a pick, maybe a 4th rounder like the Leafs paid for a player who is comparable at best. No other waived player so far has come close to being such a good fit for the Habs.

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