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08-20-2011, 01:49 AM
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2011-12 line up

hey guys i was just wondering for the upcoming season what do you think is the line up ? I couldn't find a thread about it so I thought I asked


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08-20-2011, 01:52 AM
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Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
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Jagr - Jagr - Jagr

Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr

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Hartnell - Briere - Jagr
JVR - Giroux - Voracek
Talbot - Schenn - Simmonds
Holmstrom - Betts - Nodl
Shelley

Carle - Pronger
Timonen - Coburn
Bartulis/Lilja - Meszaros
Bartulis/Lilja

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08-20-2011, 06:19 AM
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Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr

Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr

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Replace Jagr with Shelley and you have a winning team.

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08-20-2011, 09:12 AM
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Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr

Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr

Jagr
How cool would it be if Jagr really played as a goalie? Would be much more interesting to watch Flyers games if he did.

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08-20-2011, 09:16 AM
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I'm hoping Read, Gustafsson, and Holmstrom impress enough at camp to get a spot.

JvR-Giroux-Voracek---Young skill line. All can set up, all can bury it
Hartnell-Briere-Jagr---pretty elite cycling line
Read - Schenn - Simmonds---Underrated defensive line, and they could all pot 40+ points
Talbot - Holmstrom - Nodl---very pesky line, excellent defensively, won't cost us offense.

Betts, Sestito/Shelley/Rinaldo - I feel like Betts and Holmstrom will split time as they rest Betts and groom Holmstrom. Sestito, Shelley, and Rinaldo essentially fill the same role, and we won't need an enforcer unless there's a regular enforcer dressed for an opposing team.

Timonen - Coburn - Coburn needs #1 time
Pronger - Carle - Can't break these two up when Pronger's healthy
Meszaros - Gustafsson - Mez is a solid partner for a rookie to start with.

Lilja, Bartulis

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08-20-2011, 10:01 AM
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I'm hoping Read, Gustafsson, and Holmstrom impress enough at camp to get a spot.

JvR-Giroux-Voracek---Young skill line. All can set up, all can bury it
Hartnell-Briere-Jagr---pretty elite cycling line
Read - Schenn - Simmonds---Underrated defensive line, and they could all pot 40+ points
Talbot - Holmstrom - Nodl---very pesky line, excellent defensively, won't cost us offense.

Betts, Sestito/Shelley/Rinaldo - I feel like Betts and Holmstrom will split time as they rest Betts and groom Holmstrom. Sestito, Shelley, and Rinaldo essentially fill the same role, and we won't need an enforcer unless there's a regular enforcer dressed for an opposing team.

Timonen - Coburn - Coburn needs #1 time
Pronger - Carle - Can't break these two up when Pronger's healthy
Meszaros - Gustafsson - Mez is a solid partner for a rookie to start with.

Lilja, Bartulis

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I like it, except I'm not sold on Read yet. To small of a sample size, plus two rookies on one line can be scary

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I'm hoping Read, Gustafsson, and Holmstrom impress enough at camp to get a spot.

JvR-Giroux-Voracek---Young skill line. All can set up, all can bury it
Hartnell-Briere-Jagr---pretty elite cycling line
Read - Schenn - Simmonds---Underrated defensive line, and they could all pot 40+ points
Talbot - Holmstrom - Nodl---very pesky line, excellent defensively, won't cost us offense.

Betts, Sestito/Shelley/Rinaldo - I feel like Betts and Holmstrom will split time as they rest Betts and groom Holmstrom. Sestito, Shelley, and Rinaldo essentially fill the same role, and we won't need an enforcer unless there's a regular enforcer dressed for an opposing team.

Timonen - Coburn - Coburn needs #1 time
Pronger - Carle - Can't break these two up when Pronger's healthy
Meszaros - Gustafsson - Mez is a solid partner for a rookie to start with.

Lilja, Bartulis

Bryzgalov
Bob
I'd keep Betts over Holmstrom.

I'd change Voracek and Jagr in the firsts 2 lines : Voracek is a Leino-type player that would keep HBL alive, and imagine Jagr feeding Giroux and JVR, or the opposite. It would be lethal.

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Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr - Jagr

Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr
Jagr - Jagr

Jagr
Thats what I love about this forum. You can both give and take jokes. I did a similar post to this on the Jets forum and I got an infraction and the post removed.

As for the OP, I see opening night as being the same as sobrien except for the 3rd and 4th lines being:

Nodl Schenn Simmonds
Talbot, Betts, Sesito/Shelly

I see Holmstrom being the first callup if a 3rd or 4th liner is needed (with Talbot being moved up if it's a 3rd liner) and Read being the first callup if it's a top 6 spot needing to be filled.

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Thats what I love about this forum. You can both give and take jokes. I did a similar post to this on the Jets forum and I got an infraction and the post removed.

As for the OP, I see opening night as being the same as sobrien except for the 3rd and 4th lines being:

Nodl Schenn Simmonds
Talbot, Betts, Sesito/Shelly

I see Holmstrom being the first callup if a 3rd or 4th liner is needed (with Talbot being moved up if it's a 3rd liner) and Read being the first callup if it's a top 6 spot needing to be filled.
I think Simmonds or Schenn would just bump up to the top 6 if need be this season.

I also think teams will start following the mold of the Bruins and Canucks from last season and roll 4 competitive lines as much as possible (able to play 10+ mins a night). Sestito and Rinaldo can hold their own skillwise, but Shelley brings it down a bit, you can argue that Betts does as well.

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Holmstrom at center, betts to wing as his face offs have tanked with his shoulder no longer existing

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Hartnell - Briere - Vorcek
JVR - Roo - Jagr
Talbot - Read - Simmonds
Holmstrom/Betts - Betts/Holmstrom -Nodl
Shelley

Callups: Schenn*, Rinadlo, Sestito

Pronger -Carle
Timmo - Coburn
Mez - Gus

7th-8thLilja/Barts

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edit: unless Schenn is ready to go, as there is no need to rush him, then he centers the 3rd line...

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JVR - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Briere - Jagr
Nodl - Talbot - Simmonds

The fourth line will consist of a combination of Schenn, Betts, Sestito, Holmstrom, and Shelley. Depending on how Schenn/Sestito look in camp and whether or not Shelley plays. Which is going to happen in some cases.

w/o Pronger
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - Mez
Lilja - Bartulis/Gus

w/ Pronger
Carle - Pronger
Timonen - Coburn
Mez - Bartulis
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Bryz & Bob

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we've only done this thread 100 times already, yay

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JVR - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Briere - Jagr
Simmonds - Schenn - Nodl/Read
Talbot - Holmstrom - /SestitoRinaldo/Nodl
Betts

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Coburn
Mezaros - Gustaffson
Lilja

If Read impresses in Camp then he takes the third line slot over Nodl, and Nodl bumps out Rinaldo. Read would have to be pretty spectacular though.

Anyhow, the top line is put together because they are all young fast and play with an edge. I don't like to put to much stock into snipers and playmakers because personally I think it's a crock of ****. Giroux plays best down the middle and I want to see what he can do with Voracek.

The second line is put together because Jagr is a big lump and i believe will be a better replacement than leino on that line. Leino did an awful lot of defensive work though so it could be fun to watch.

The third line is a shutdown line with Schenn being the pro-typical shutdown centre with the ability to score. If Read impresses then Schenn has someone to pass to. I've heard very highly of his playmaking skills, so a talented winger should be able to pot a few goals. We all know what to expect from Simmonds. He's going to make some room on the ice.

You are all looking at Rinaldo and thinking i'm stupid. I want to see that lunatic on the ice. I want to see the fourth line feared, and I want to see them inflict pain on opposition defensive partnerships. We got bullied last year by one of the softest teams in the league. Between him and Sestito we have some serious hitting power and that edge that keeps everyones eyes off the puck and on them.

Lol, totally forgot about Talbot.


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JVR - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Briere - Jagr
Nodl - Talbot - Simmonds

The fourth line will consist of a combination of Schenn, Betts, Sestito, Holmstrom, and Shelley. Depending on how Schenn/Sestito look in camp and whether or not Shelley plays. Which is going to happen in some cases.

w/o Pronger
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - Mez
Lilja - Bartulis/Gus

w/ Pronger
Carle - Pronger
Timonen - Coburn
Mez - Bartulis
Lilja

Bryz & Bob
Lets hope that is not our 3rd line going into the season. Talbot is not even a center.

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JVR - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Briere - Jagr
Simmonds - Schenn - Nodl/Read
Sestito - Holmstrom - Rinaldo/Nodl
Betts

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Coburn
Mezaros - Gustaffson
Lilja

If Read impresses in Camp then he takes the third line slot over Nodl, and Nodl bumps out Rinaldo. Read would have to be pretty spectacular though.

Anyhow, the top line is put together because they are all young fast and play with an edge. I don't like to put to much stock into snipers and playmakers because personally I think it's a crock of ****. Giroux plays best down the middle and I want to see what he can do with Voracek.

The second line is put together because Jagr is a big lump and i believe will be a better replacement than leino on that line. Leino did an awful lot of defensive work though so it could be fun to watch.

The third line is a shutdown line with Schenn being the pro-typical shutdown centre with the ability to score. If Read impresses then Schenn has someone to pass to. I've heard very highly of his playmaking skills, so a talented winger should be able to pot a few goals. We all know what to expect from Simmonds. He's going to make some room on the ice.

You are all looking at Rinaldo and thinking i'm stupid. I want to see that lunatic on the ice. I want to see the fourth line feared, and I want to see them inflict pain on opposition defensive partnerships. We got bullied last year by one of the softest teams in the league. Between him and Sestito we have some serious hitting power and that edge that keeps everyones eyes off the puck and on them.
And you want us to be on the pk all game long. Well one positive thing is that Rinaldo wont get alot of icetime because he will either be in the box for a stupid penalty or be suspended. Oh and you make a joke talking about him being a lunatic. He actually is kinda crazy. I remember reading an article about him seeing a doctor for anger management problems.

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There's no way Schenn isn't our third line center at opening night, imo.

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My dream lineup at the moment goes like this:

Jakub Voracek - Michael Nylander - Jaromir Jagr
James van Riemsdyk - Daniel Brière - Claude Giroux
Scott Hartnell - Brayden Schenn - Wayne Simmonds
Maxime Talbot - Blair Betts - Andreas Nödl
Jody Shelley

Chris Pronger - Matt Carle
Kimmo Timonen - Braydon Coburn
Andrej Meszaros - Oskars Bartulis
Andreas Lilja

a more reasoable lineup for the forwards would perhaps be

James van Riemsdyk - Claude Giroux - Jaromir Jagr
Scott Hartnell - Daniel Brière - Jakub Voracek
Eric Wellwood - Brayden Schenn - Wayne Simmonds
Maxime Talbot - Blair Betts - Andreas Nödl

in Wellwood's place might be Read, or if guys like Holmstrom and Sestito takes the final spot push up Nödl to the third line.

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I still wonder how people are so sold on Read and just kind of throw Betts out the window as either our 13th or not at all.

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Read somewhere that Couturier has played LW. One of our 4 Centers are going to have to move to W and if Couturier can play LW and we have a LW spot open on the 3rd line next to another great prospect and a big guy with experience in the league would be wonderful. Best case Scenario this year I see as;

JvR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Couturier-Schenn-Simmonds
Nodl-Talbot-Betts
Shelley

Pronger-Carle
Coburn-Timonen
Meszaros-Gustaffson
Lilja

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Obviously would need Couturier to step up and prove he can play at this level, as well as Schenn. Personally I think Schenn is going to have a much longer leash though.

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We need to move a contract before we can have Couturier on for the full season though.

I think he can stay up for the first nine games however (if he is signed).

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I'm hoping Read, Gustafsson, and Holmstrom impress enough at camp to get a spot.

JvR-Giroux-Voracek---Young skill line. All can set up, all can bury it
Hartnell-Briere-Jagr---pretty elite cycling line
Read - Schenn - Simmonds---Underrated defensive line, and they could all pot 40+ points
Talbot - Holmstrom - Nodl---very pesky line, excellent defensively, won't cost us offense.

Betts, Sestito/Shelley/Rinaldo - I feel like Betts and Holmstrom will split time as they rest Betts and groom Holmstrom. Sestito, Shelley, and Rinaldo essentially fill the same role, and we won't need an enforcer unless there's a regular enforcer dressed for an opposing team.

Timonen - Coburn - Coburn needs #1 time
Pronger - Carle - Can't break these two up when Pronger's healthy
Meszaros - Gustafsson - Mez is a solid partner for a rookie to start with.

Lilja, Bartulis

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+1 on this. Would love that lineup.

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I still wonder how people are so sold on Read and just kind of throw Betts out the window as either our 13th or not at all.
Holmstrom is pretty much just waiting for Betts to get hurt again, which happens every season. Holmstrom plays just like Betts just, but is just younger.

On Read alot of people (including myself) are hoping he can play at the next level. Even Bill Meltzer thinks that his offensive potential is right after Schenn and Couturier's.

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Holmstrom is pretty much just waiting for Betts to get hurt again, which happens every season. Holmstrom plays just like Betts just, but is just younger.

On Read alot of people (including myself) are hoping he can play at the next level. Even Bill Meltzer thinks that his offensive potential is right after Schenn and Couturier's.
What do you mean that is offensive potential is right after theirs?

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Read is also done physically maturing at 25 years old, and was excellent his short time in the AHL. Holmgren called him "by far the best Phantom." Having a player go the AHL for a few games at the end of a season and then playing in NHL the next season is some thing this team has done in the past and may happen again.

I too would like an explanation as to why Betts is being thrown under he bus. Did his faceoffs really fall off that much? Did he stop becoming a big part of the PK and I just didn't see it? Is it because of his nagging shoulder? I still see him as a valuable 4th liner and PKer but I must be in the minority. What did he miss last year? maybe 10 or games wasn't it? I see Talbot as the Lappy or Powe replacement not the Betts replacement.

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