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10-07-2011, 07:46 PM
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Like I posted earlier, but I have to agree - they're VERY well coached. I'm not a huge FIREBRUCE guy, but I think the Caps win the Cup this year with Bylsma behind the bench. 24/7 wasn't any sort of be-all, end-all, but the disparity between coaching was at times epic. DB was calm yet firm and direct, succinctly pointed out what they needed to do better and how they were going to do it, before injecting some energy through various tactics. Meanwhile BB quite literally F-bomb rah-rah-rahed his way in and out of the locker room, leaving the players with their heads down, lifeless.

Disclaimer: the Caps were often down, while the Pens had plenty of leads. I suspect BB's fine when leading. I'd like to see a little more Xs and Os than **** **** ****ing **** when down a goal or more, though.
Ok for the record I was for letting Boudreau go this offseason for a number of reasons. That being said if you think the 24/7 thing was done in any way in favor of accuracy over entertainment I don't know what to tell you.

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10-07-2011, 08:28 PM
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if you believed 24/7, you'd think that bylsma had no heart. no soul. tom landry on skates. you'd think the opposite of boudreau.

so, this season it stands to be tortarella and loviolette. red face and the goatie. you think lovy does fire f bombs?

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That being said if you think the 24/7 thing was done in any way in favor of accuracy over entertainment I don't know what to tell you.
Of course they're going for entertainment, but they didn't twist his words or actions - they happened. Just a lack of cool/leadership. F this, F that - it's professional hockey, not high school.

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if you believed 24/7, you'd think that bylsma had no heart.
Not following. He showed plenty. Clearly wanted to win badly, and his players knew that. You don't have to curse yourself red in the face to show heart.

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following. He showed plenty. Clearly wanted to win badly, and his players knew that. You don't have to curse yourself red in the face to show heart.
If while coaching a professional hockey you're not swearing as though you're additioning for a DeNiro part in a Scorsese movie you have no soul.

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10-08-2011, 07:29 AM
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Of course they're going for entertainment, but they didn't twist his words or actions - they happened. Just a lack of cool/leadership. F this, F that - it's professional hockey, not high school.
Of course it happened but that wasn't all that happened, just the stuff that made for good entertainment. Intermissions are a heck of a lot longer than the short clips that were shown on 24/7. Are you under the impression that since Boudreau was dropping F bombs in a clip that he just spent the next 10 minutes doing the same thing?

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10-08-2011, 08:17 AM
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Of course it happened but that wasn't all that happened, just the stuff that made for good entertainment. Intermissions are a heck of a lot longer than the short clips that were shown on 24/7. Are you under the impression that since Boudreau was dropping F bombs in a clip that he just spent the next 10 minutes doing the same thing?
Dude, you can play that card if you really want to and remotely believe it, but they showed both in the same spot on numerous occasions (look at the clock): right before they're headed back out. DB was as described, BB was incoherent and somewhat nauseating. Remember his little impression of how defeated they supposedly looked? And THAT is going to help them in the next period?


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Dude, you can play that card if you really want to and remotely believe it, but they showed both in the same spot on numerous occasions (look at the clock): right before they're headed back out. DB was as described, BB was incoherent and somewhat nauseating. Remember his little impression of how defeated they supposedly looked? And THAT is going to help them in the next period?

And you can believe Boudreau just spends entire intermissions doing nothing but dropping F bombs and then sends his troops out to do battle all you want dude.

Some coaches light into their teams when they are playing poorly as soon as they get back in the locker room and some of them don't. Some of them light into them again right before going back out to make sure the sense of urgency is there and some don't. Some don't light into their teams at all except in exceptional circumstances. There is no right or wrong way to approach that part of coaching.

But I will say it again, 24/7 was about entertainment not accuracy. Intermissions are 15 minutes long. If you think what you saw in a few 30 second clips is all that goes on during those entire 15 minutes then I don't know what to tell you. Anyone who has ever played any level of any sport where the coach is allowed to yell and cuss and get in his players' faces knows that is not the case. But when you are sitting around with your teammates later the yelling and screaming is the stuff you usually laugh about because it is definitely entertaining.

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10-08-2011, 12:27 PM
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2nd (or more?). He had at least goal vs. the Devils last year.

It was Smith-Pelly's 1st though.

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Yeah, his third point. He had 1+1 last year in nine games.

Smith-Pelly - Cogliano - Gordon seems like it could be a pretty decent third line for them.

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So sweet to see Gordon with a nice pass for the assist; his first point as a Duck. Anaheim visits Verizon Center on Nov 1...

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Yeah, his third point. He had 1+1 last year in nine games.

Smith-Pelly - Cogliano - Gordon seems like it could be a pretty decent third line for them.
He had 1+1 in one game last year, the game against the Devils in December. Only the second NHL game in which he has tallied a point.

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Av's play tonight against the wings. Also center ice is free right now if you want to catch it.

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It appears I was mistaken. Apologies. Not sure why I didn't remember that.

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It appears I was mistaken. Apologies. Not sure why I didn't remember that.
It happened right after the miserable streak in December around the holidays. Only reason it's memorable for a non Gordon fan would be for 'the kiss'.

As a Gordon fan, I'm happy to see him picking up a point in game #2 with the Ducks.

Moving on, glad to be watching live hockey (even if it's gorgeous outside here).

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FriedgeHNIC Elliotte Friedman

"After Hours tonight is Marc-Andre Fleury and Scott Hannan"

Sweet After Hours is back and could be interesting hearing what Hannan has to say...

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Dave Steckel...national face-off supastar.

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Dave Steckel...national face-off supastar.
Two minutes spent on Steckel on Hockey Night in Canada. Not bad. He would never ever have gotten that before but play for Toronto and voila.

First a rink side interview with Cassie Campbel-Pascall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassie_Campbell and then a break down of what he does in the face off circle that makes him so good. 18/25 face off wins in his 1st game. 72 %.

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Dave Steckel...national face-off supastar.


Seriously.

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Gonchar looks like he's playing in a senior league. Ottawa would like to make a reservation for Nail.

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Hanzal (who is so hot right now) is a terrifying comp for Johansson.

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