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09-21-2003, 02:41 PM
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Prospect Thread....

I got this idea from the 'Nucks board. I think that since we are a hockeysfuture board we need to keep up to date with our prospects. We may as well have a thread about them and there actions in there various leagues.....so I'll start it off.

Dion Phaneuf had 2 assists last night for Red Deer and was +1

(By the way could I get this stickied FDW or BB? Not that it's really necessary on this board, lol )

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Cam Cunning has a goal in 2 games and is minus 2 with Kamloops so far.

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Tardif has nothing to report so far in 2 games with Peterborough.

Donally has done nothing in 1 game with Windsor.

Ramholt has an assist and is +1 in 2 games in Cape Breton.

Thanks for the sticky, anyone got any info on the Euro prospects?
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According to www.russianprospects.com Shastin is our only Russian prospect to figure into scoring thus far in the RSL. He has one goal. Also mentioned is that Trubachev's line hasn't looked very visible and will need to step it up.

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Hey All, Lowell fan here. Just wondering if anyone had insight on who might be sent to us this year.

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Hey All, Lowell fan here. Just wondering if anyone had insight on who might be sent to us this year.
best guesses?

Goal. either Dany Sabourin or Brett Krahn

Defence. Rail Rozakov and two of Mike Commodore, Jesse Wallin, Steve Montador

forwards: Garrett Bembridge, Martin Sonnenberg, Matthew Lombardi (likely), Jason Morgan, one or both of Matt Davidson, Robert Dome

sound about right ?

you will be getting a good goalie and two or three decent dmen. up front Lombardi and Dome are the 2 scorers, with Morgan and Davidson as decent two way role players

edit: I should add there is a remote chance you will also get minor league tough guy Jeff Ewasko. the team hasn't signed him to my knowledge but he is still in camp. frankly I would think he would go to Vegas if signed, but if Lowell needs some muscle who knows?

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09-23-2003, 12:27 PM
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Defence. Rail Rozakov and two of Mike Commodore, Jesse Wallin, Steve Montador
According to an article recently the agreement with Lowell is for 1G 2D and 6F so we won't be sending them 3 defensemen from the sounds of it.

Brennan Evans and Deryk Engelland have been sent to the Lowell camp. They are unsigned by the Flames but could be signed by Lowell to AHL deals or might end up in Las Vegas. Either way you might see them at some point this year. Evans to me looks to be the better player by far.

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09-23-2003, 12:38 PM
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According to an article recently the agreement with Lowell is for 1G 2D and 6F so we won't be sending them 3 defensemen from the sounds of it.

Brennan Evans and Deryk Engelland have been sent to the Lowell camp. They are unsigned by the Flames but could be signed by Lowell to AHL deals or might end up in Las Vegas. Either way you might see them at some point this year. Evans to me looks to be the better player by far.
I remember the article saying that, but that surprises me.

I assume minor league teams carry 7 D? I wonder why we would only supply 2 of the 7, but 6 of 13 forwards?

especially if you consider that (barring a trade) only one of Montador,Commodore and Wallin can make the Flames, and we just brought Rozakov over the pond, presumably not to play in Vegas. I can't see how we wouldn't be sending 3 guys there unless we make a trade or lose one of the three amigos on waivers

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The reason is probably because Carolina has better depth at defense and wanted to make sure their prospects would get some ice time.

I don't think starting Rozakov off in the ECHL would work out horribly. Inevitably injuries will strike and everybody will start moving up a level. The depth is only a problem when everyone in the organization is 100% and I'm guessing that will be for 20% of the year at most.

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How did Rozakov look in camp?

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09-24-2003, 01:01 PM
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How did Rozakov look in camp?
I thought he looked good. He's from the same draft class as Leopold and Commodore (although a year younger) so he is somewhat experienced. He has the shifty Euro skating style which reminds or Saprykin or Dome but also showed a willingness to throw his body around. Seemed to have good puck skills as well. Average size for a defensemen though. I think he has an NHL future at some point. Probably a 5th-7th guy.

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Tim Ramholt is up to 5 assists in 4 games with Cape Breton so far this season.

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Dion Phaneuf leads the Red Deer Rebels with 5 points (2+3) in 7 games so far this season.

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Here are the updated stats of our current top 20 prospect (from the HF page, with Donally as 20th). Also if anyone knows any info on the Russian Prospects that'd be great to hear or read.

Player GP G A P PIM +/- (for Goalies GP W L T GAA SVP)
1. Chuck Kobasew IN FLAMES CAMP
2. Dion Phaneuf 8 2 3 5 15 -1
3. Eric Nystrom SEASON STARTS SATURDAY
4. Andrei Taratukhin 5 0 0 0 4 -1
5. Andrei Medvedev UNKNOWN
6. Brent Krahn IN FLAMES CAMP
7. Matthew Lombardi IN FLAMES CAMP
8. Blair Betts IN FLAMES CAMP
9. Tim Ramholt 4 0 5 5 4 +3
10. Yuri Trubachev UNKNOWN
11. Dany Sabourin IN AHL CAMP
12. Mike Commodore IN FLAMES CAMP
13. Curtis McElhinney SEASON STARTS OCT 17TH
14. Tomi Maki 7 2 0 2 4 +1
15. Brian McConnell SEASON STARTS OCT 11TH
16. Jamie Tardif 3 2 1 3 6 -1
17. Robert Dome IN FLAMES CAMP
18. Ruslan Zainullin UNKNOWN
19. Victor Borbov UNKNOWN
20. Ryan Donally 3 0 3 3 4 +2

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Krahn hasn't been cut yet has he? I thought he was still with the Flames.

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Krahn hasn't been cut yet has he? I thought he was still with the Flames.
Thanks for noticing, I was getting ahead of things, lol.

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10-06-2003, 08:20 AM
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Ramholt article from CapeBreton Post

Impact Import Thursday, October 2, 2003
BRAD ROWE

Tim Ramholt is only four games into his Quebec Major Junior Hockey League career, but it already appears he’s going to be the impact European the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles have lacked in recent seasons.

The 19-year-old defenceman from Zurich, Switzerland has displayed offensive creativity and solid defensive play in the two weeks he’s been with the Eagles since returning from his first training camp with the Calgary Flames.

Flames head coach Darryl Sutter met with Ramholt and issued him a challenge before assigning him to the Eagles.

“The coach told me he wants me to be one of, or the best, defenceman in the Q,” said Ramholt, the Flames second round choice, 39th overall, in the 2003 NHL draft. “At the time I had no idea what it was going to take to be the best defenceman in the Q. I don’t know if I can be one of the best, but he expects that of me so I’m going to try my best.”

Ramholt is off to a strong start to what will very likely be his only season of major junior. He’s tied for third in scoring among defenceman with five assists in four games. And he’s a solid plus-3 in the early going of the young season.

“I don’t care so much about the points. I know I can play offensively, but I have to work on my defensive play. I have to be a little bit like a stay-at-home defenceman,” said Ramholt.

“I think I’ve played pretty good so far. At the start I wasn’t playing that good, but game-to-game I’m feeling better. The last two games I felt really good. Defensively I played pretty well, which is what I’m looking for.”

Ramholt played the past two seasons with the Zurich Lions of the Swiss Elite League. He was 17 and 18-years-old playing against much older players, many of them former pros from Canada taking advantage of the lucrative contracts offered to imports to play in Europe.

One of the players Ramholt played against was Sydney River’s Craig Ferguson, who spent two seasons with the Fribourg Dragons. He’s now playing in Germany.

“The skills are higher in Switzerland for sure,” said Ramholt. “But the intensity is pretty high here. It’s a rougher game here. You don’t skate as much with the puck. Here it’s more passing than skating.”

Ramholt’s two years in the Swiss Elite League not only helped him hone his skills, it helped him learn another language. Switzerland has three official languages: French, German and Italian. Ramholt’s first language is German and he’s able to carry on a conversation in French and because of his time with the Lions he’s also fluent in English.

“We had imports from Canada playing in Zurich and I listened to them a lot and started to talk with them so I guess that’s how I learned to speak English,” said Ramholt, who is brushing up his third language by taking a French course at the University College of Cape Breton.

Ramholt decided during the off-season he wanted to come to Canada this season to help him adjust to the North American style of game as well as the rigours of the longer schedule and the extensive travel.

Eagles head coach and general manager Pascal Vincent watched Ramholt play for Switzerland in the 2003 IIHF World junior championship at Centre 200 in Sydney and was impressed enough by what he saw to select the smooth skating blueliner with the seventh overall pick in the European draft in June.

“I didn’t think about what team I wanted to play for, I just decided I wanted to come to Canada,” said Ramholt. “It didn’t matter what team, but I’m happy it was Cape Breton.

“It helped that I already knew a little bit about what Cape Breton was like from the World juniors. It made me more comfortable.”

Life in Cape Breton is very different from what Ramholt is used to.

“The city I am from (Zurich) is pretty big … at least 300,000 people,” he said. “I’ve always been a big city kid. I’ve always wanted to be in a big city. This is the first time I’m living in a small area. I find it pretty relaxed and comfortable here. It’s good here. I like it.”

Switzerland was just 1-3 in the round-robin portion of the World junior, but defeated Germany and Sweden in relegation round games to finish with a 3-3 record and earn seventh place in the 10-team tournament.

“It wasn’t the best World juniors for us,” said Ramholt, who had two goals and two assists in six games. “We were pretty unlucky the whole championship. It wasn’t what I expected.”

Ramholt is likely to get a second crack at winning a medal at the 2004 World junior championship in Finland.

But right now his focus is on helping the Eagles be successful. The Eagles could tie a franchise record for consecutive victories if they can win their seventh straight when they host the Gatineau Olympiques today at 7:30 p.m. at Centre 200 in Sydney.

“Six wins in a row is nice but it doesn’t mean much right now,” said Ramholt. “A game like Rimouski when we were behind 3-0 and came back and won 5-3 showed we have a lot of character. That’s important.

“We’re a good team on paper and we’re showing we’re a good team on the ice. We’re all good friends and we work hard together as a team.”

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Thanks for the article. Sounds like Ramholt is happy to be in Canada and is willing to make things work. Excellent.

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Nice read there on Ramholt, it sounds like he's doing well. Anywhere here are the updated prospect stats....

Player GP G A P PIM +/- (for Goalies GP W L T GAA SVP)
1. Chuck Kobasew MADE THE FLAMES - NHL
2. Dion Phaneuf 10 3 3 6 19 -1 - WHL
3. Eric Nystrom 1 1 0 1 - US College
4. Andrei Taratukhin 5 0 0 0 4 -1 - Russian Super League
5. Andrei Medvedev UNKNOWN -
6. Brent Krahn DESIGNATED FOR ASSIGNMENT - Pending
7. Matthew Lombardi MADE THE FLAMES - NHL
8. Blair Betts MADE THE FLAMES - NHL
9. Tim Ramholt 6 0 7 7 4 +7 - QMJHL
10. Yuri Trubachev UNKNOWN -
11. Dany Sabourin SEASON STARTS FRIDAY - AHL
12. Mike Commodore MADE THE FLAMES - NHL
13. Curtis McElhinney SEASON STARTS OCT 17TH - US College
14. Tomi Maki 10 2 0 2 4 +2 - SM-Liiga Finland
15. Brian McConnell SEASON STARTS SATURDAY - US College
16. Jamie Tardif 4 2 1 3 6 -2 - OHL
17. Robert Dome SEASON STARTS FRIDAY - AHL
18. Ruslan Zainullin UNKNOWN -
19. Victor Borbov UNKNOWN -
20. Ryan Donally 6 2 3 5 17 +2 - OHL

Anyone that can find a good Russian hockey site I would be happy to know, I can't find anything English about four of the five prospects, and my Russian ain't great

PS - Anyone heard anything about Donally? He seems to have had a pretty good start to the year with Points & PIMS.

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I'll fill in a couple of holes on your NCAA prospects listing:

F Brian McConnell (BU) - 0G, 0A this weekend

F David Vander Gulik (BU) - 1G, 0A this weekend

RW Greg Moore (Maine) - 1G, 2A (he was awesome in the game vs. Minnesota on Friday night!)

D Jim Hakewill (SLU) - 0G, 0A this weekend

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I'll fill in a couple of holes on your NCAA prospects listing:

F Brian McConnell (BU) - 0G, 0A this weekend

F David Vander Gulik (BU) - 1G, 0A this weekend

RW Greg Moore (Maine) - 1G, 2A (he was awesome in the game vs. Minnesota on Friday night!)

D Jim Hakewill (SLU) - 0G, 0A this weekend
Hey thanks Oilers Chick, where do you get you NCAA stats from?

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Hey thanks Oilers Chick, where do you get you NCAA stats from?
I got these from The USCHO site

But usually I get my stats from theCollege Hockey Stats Site. This is great except it doesn't include the CCHA, which means if you want Eric Nystrom's stats, I'd suggest the Michigan Wolverines Site or the CCHA Site.

Oops! Almost forgot Eric Nystrom. 1G, OA this past weekend.

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I've decided to go with a little different style this time and list all the Flame prospects (as designated by the HF Calgary page). I'll put them into Forward, Defense and Goalies. They'll be ranked by total points for skaters and GAA for Goalies. Any help you can lend on the Unknown's would be greatly appreciated.

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R. Player, Team, League GP G A TP +/- PIM
1. V. Hamalainen, KaiPa Jr, Fin Jr 9 3 5 8 6
2. J. Tardif, Pbo, OHL 7 3 1 4 -7 6
3. C. Cunning, Kam, WHL 11 3 1 4 +1 18
4. G. Moore, UMaine, HE 2 1 2 3 0
5. J. Morgan, Lowell, AHL 3 1 2 3 +2 2
7. T. Maki, Jokerit, Finland 11 2 0 2 +2 4
8. R. Dome, Lowell, AHL 2 1 1 2 +2 0
9. M. Sonnenberg, Lowell, AHL 2 1 1 2 E 0
10. D. Van Der Gulik, BU, HE 1 1 0 1 0
11. C. Kobasew, Cal, NHL 2 1 0 1 -1 0
12. E. Nystrom, Mich, CCHA 3 1 0 1 -2 0
13. M. Lombardi, Cal, NHL 2 0 1 1 E 0
14. G. Bembridge, Lowell, AHL 0 0 0 0 E 0
15. B. Betts, Cal, NHL 2 0 0 0 -2 0
16. A. Taratukhin, Omsk, RSL 5 0 0 0 -1 4
17. T. Johnson, MJ, WHL 8 0 0 0 -2 4
18. B. McConnell, BU, HE UNKNOWN
19. R. Zainullin, Kazan, RSL UNKNOWN
20. K. Persson, Bjorkloven, Swe-2 UNKNOWN
21. E. Peter, Kloten, Switz UNKNOWN
22. Y. Trubachev, ?, RSL UNKNOWN
23. E. Shastin, ?, RSL UNKNOWN
24. V. Borbov, ?, ? UNKNOWN
25. Y. Artemenkov, ?, ? UNKNOWN
26. J. Cetkovsky, ?, ? UNKNOWN
27. K. Harvey, ?, ? UNKNOWN
28. B. Kelly, ?, ? UNKNOWN
29. D. Lynch, ?, ? UNKNOWN
30. D. Moss, ?, ? UNKNOWN
31. J. Spence, ?, ? UNKNOWN

Defense
R. Player, Team, League GP G A TP +/- PIM
0. D. Phaneuf, Red Deer, WHL 13 6 4 10 +2 24
0. T. Ramholt, CB, QMJHL 7 0 8 8 +10 8
0. J. Frogren, Farjestad, SEL 8 0 3 3
0. T. Bellemare, Drum, QMJHL 5 1 0 1 E 19
0. R. Rozakov, Lowell, AHL 2 0 0 0 -1 4
0. M. Commodore, Cal, NHL 0 0 0 0 E 0
0. P. Johnsson, Mora, Swe-2 UNKNOWN
0. J. Marttinen, Jyvaskyla, Fin Jr UNKNOWN
0. D. Kokorev, ?, RSL UNKNOWN
0. J. Campbell, ?, ? UNKNOWN
0. J. Hakewill, ?, ? UNKNOWN

Goalies
R. Player, Team, League GP W L T SV% GAA
0. D. Sabourin, Lowell, AHL 2 2 0 0 .956 1.50
0. B. Krahn, Cal, NHL 0 0 0 0 .000 0.00
0. C. McElhinney, CC, WCHA UNKNOWN
0. A. Medvedev, ?, ? UNKNOWN

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Forwards
R. Player, Team, League GP G A TP +/- PIM
27. K. Harvey, ?, ? UNKNOWN
29. D. Lynch, ?, ? UNKNOWN
27. K. Harvey, Owe, OHL 9 3 2 5 +5 35
29. D. Lynch, Van, WHL 10 3 4 7 +3 6

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0. J. Marttinen, Jyvaskyla, Fin Jr UNKNOWN
J. Marttinen, JYP, Finland 10 3 1 4 +6 59

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